APS and higher boost ??
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APS and higher boost ??
What is required for the APS kit to be taken to 12-14 lbs of boost....wastegate spring, boost controller, etc ??? Or can the Unichip piggyback be programmed for this boost increase? Just curious.
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Re: APS and higher boost ??
Originally posted by g356gear
What is required for the APS kit to be taken to 12-14 lbs of boost....wastegate spring, boost controller, etc ??? Or can the Unichip piggyback be programmed for this boost increase? Just curious.
What is required for the APS kit to be taken to 12-14 lbs of boost....wastegate spring, boost controller, etc ??? Or can the Unichip piggyback be programmed for this boost increase? Just curious.
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Originally posted by g356gear
So the tuner can set the boost level in the Unichip at which the solenoid actuates and bleeds off the excess boost?......sweeeet
So the tuner can set the boost level in the Unichip at which the solenoid actuates and bleeds off the excess boost?......sweeeet
The only down side of this is you will need the Unichip software and a laptop/good PDA to adjust boost, say for street or track use. I think there are aftermarket boost controllers that could work like the E-01 for our apps too.
Last edited by Enron Exec; Jan 24, 2005 at 07:27 PM.
I had a Problem with High Boost on APS TT Kit
I had a HKS EVC II on My APS Kit only i can Boost up to 11.6 PSI
and this is my Pic
and this is my timeslip
base on 80kpa Boost + 50 Shot Nitrous + MT ET street Tire
I had a HKS EVC II on My APS Kit only i can Boost up to 11.6 PSI
and this is my Pic
and this is my timeslip
base on 80kpa Boost + 50 Shot Nitrous + MT ET street Tire
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Originally posted by dansouliere
I guess the real question is how far can you take the APS kit before the fuel system needs upgrading.
I guess the real question is how far can you take the APS kit before the fuel system needs upgrading.
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Unichip boost map
Originally posted by Enron Exec
Yep.
The only down side of this is you will need the Unichip software and a laptop/good PDA to adjust boost, say for street or track use. I think there are aftermarket boost controllers that could work like the E-01 for our apps too.
Yep.
The only down side of this is you will need the Unichip software and a laptop/good PDA to adjust boost, say for street or track use. I think there are aftermarket boost controllers that could work like the E-01 for our apps too.
I haven't gotten to this point yet , but apparently the basic Unichip controller allows two maps to be Flashed and selected via a switched lead. So it should be possible to lslect betwen two maps , a street map and a strip map for example. Each map should provide two totally unique boost , timing and A/F profiles.
Probably in the neighborhood of 500whp before the system would need upgrading. Keep in mind that APS rates their injectors at 3.5bar instead of the industry standard 3bar pressure. so the injectors included in the APS kit are really the same size as the 440RC's included in other kits. And I have seen guys get 450-500whp on the 440's. The APS kit probably runs slighly higher fuel pressure to compensate...nothing really wrong with that that.
Its all about getting the proper balance. If you go too big on the injectors, you have start, idle, and drivability issues...etc. So foftentime, you have to compromise, for a street driven car. You might have to go one size smaller than optimal, and just run higher fuel pressure at boost.
Its all about getting the proper balance. If you go too big on the injectors, you have start, idle, and drivability issues...etc. So foftentime, you have to compromise, for a street driven car. You might have to go one size smaller than optimal, and just run higher fuel pressure at boost.
fuel psi
Originally posted by gq_626
Probably in the neighborhood of 500whp before the system would need upgrading. Keep in mind that APS rates their injectors at 3.5bar instead of the industry standard 3bar pressure. so the injectors included in the APS kit are really the same size as the 440RC's included in other kits. And I have seen guys get 450-500whp on the 440's. The APS kit probably runs slighly higher fuel pressure to compensate...nothing really wrong with that that.
Its all about getting the proper balance. If you go too big on the injectors, you have start, idle, and drivability issues...etc. So foftentime, you have to compromise, for a street driven car. You might have to go one size smaller than optimal, and just run higher fuel pressure at boost.
Probably in the neighborhood of 500whp before the system would need upgrading. Keep in mind that APS rates their injectors at 3.5bar instead of the industry standard 3bar pressure. so the injectors included in the APS kit are really the same size as the 440RC's included in other kits. And I have seen guys get 450-500whp on the 440's. The APS kit probably runs slighly higher fuel pressure to compensate...nothing really wrong with that that.
Its all about getting the proper balance. If you go too big on the injectors, you have start, idle, and drivability issues...etc. So foftentime, you have to compromise, for a street driven car. You might have to go one size smaller than optimal, and just run higher fuel pressure at boost.
map 20lbs
Originally posted by gq_626
another neat benifit of the APS kit. You dont need to spend $500 in an e-01 boost controller/programmer.
another neat benifit of the APS kit. You dont need to spend $500 in an e-01 boost controller/programmer.
could you elaborate on what you are planning on doing with your tune?
i know you said you were gonna put different wastegate springs, then fine tune boost with the e-01?
what else goes into your tuning process?
i'd like to shoot for 15-16 lbs for a month or two, then retune for 20lbs...are you doing it in stages or all at once? what do you plan to do for your break in?
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I will install the 11.6psi wastegate springs, which is an effective 10.5psi when FMIC pressure losses are counted for.
So 10.5psi will be my new base, vs. the 8.5psi that I am running right now via boost controller.
Phunk is planning on helping me tune the car via pressure sensor, rather than MAF voltage...a much more elegant and accurate solution for the big boosters. I hate to set targets or goals before hitting the dyno, although I am shooting for 550-600whp. If you put a number in your head, sometimes bad things can happen on the dyno as you push to acheive your goal . we wont realliy know until we strart tuning it, and how the car responds to the boost and tune. Tuning will be done on a laptop using the Greddy Support tool, since the e-01 is a bit combersome to tune with. If everything goes as planned, we'll have the car at 11:1'ish at 20psi and 600whp. Phunk is the master of tuning with the eManage.....makes me look like a grasshopper.
So 10.5psi will be my new base, vs. the 8.5psi that I am running right now via boost controller.
Phunk is planning on helping me tune the car via pressure sensor, rather than MAF voltage...a much more elegant and accurate solution for the big boosters. I hate to set targets or goals before hitting the dyno, although I am shooting for 550-600whp. If you put a number in your head, sometimes bad things can happen on the dyno as you push to acheive your goal . we wont realliy know until we strart tuning it, and how the car responds to the boost and tune. Tuning will be done on a laptop using the Greddy Support tool, since the e-01 is a bit combersome to tune with. If everything goes as planned, we'll have the car at 11:1'ish at 20psi and 600whp. Phunk is the master of tuning with the eManage.....makes me look like a grasshopper.
Originally posted by gq_626
I will install the 11.6psi wastegate springs, which is an effective 10.5psi when FMIC pressure losses are counted for.
So 10.5psi will be my new base, vs. the 8.5psi that I am running right now via boost controller.
Phunk is planning on helping me tune the car via pressure sensor, rather than MAF voltage...a much more elegant and accurate solution for the big boosters. I hate to set targets or goals before hitting the dyno, although I am shooting for 550-600whp. If you put a number in your head, sometimes bad things can happen on the dyno as you push to acheive your goal . we wont realliy know until we strart tuning it, and how the car responds to the boost and tune. Tuning will be done on a laptop using the Greddy Support tool, since the e-01 is a bit combersome to tune with. If everything goes as planned, we'll have the car at 11:1'ish at 20psi and 600whp. Phunk is the master of tuning with the eManage.....makes me look like a grasshopper.
I will install the 11.6psi wastegate springs, which is an effective 10.5psi when FMIC pressure losses are counted for.
So 10.5psi will be my new base, vs. the 8.5psi that I am running right now via boost controller.
Phunk is planning on helping me tune the car via pressure sensor, rather than MAF voltage...a much more elegant and accurate solution for the big boosters. I hate to set targets or goals before hitting the dyno, although I am shooting for 550-600whp. If you put a number in your head, sometimes bad things can happen on the dyno as you push to acheive your goal . we wont realliy know until we strart tuning it, and how the car responds to the boost and tune. Tuning will be done on a laptop using the Greddy Support tool, since the e-01 is a bit combersome to tune with. If everything goes as planned, we'll have the car at 11:1'ish at 20psi and 600whp. Phunk is the master of tuning with the eManage.....makes me look like a grasshopper.
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From: Valdosta, GA
Originally posted by MIAPLAYA
Sharif I know you are in NC are you going to ship your car to Chicago and tune or is phunk coming to you?
Sharif I know you are in NC are you going to ship your car to Chicago and tune or is phunk coming to you?
Originally posted by nis350ztt
Just wanted to remind you to check the thread you started on AEM forums, i'm trying to get a release date from them.
Just wanted to remind you to check the thread you started on AEM forums, i'm trying to get a release date from them.
Originally posted by gq_626
I am trailering the car to Chicago.....anyone wanna do a road trip!!!
Charles has the dyno and , a fully equipped shop in case we need to wrench on some things.
I am trailering the car to Chicago.....anyone wanna do a road trip!!!
Charles has the dyno and , a fully equipped shop in case we need to wrench on some things.
