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Old 12-23-2002 | 03:06 PM
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according to them, its more like 20 horsepower for 600bucks, and on top of that, the amp draw is inconsequential, its for a few seconds, any high output stereo system will draw more than that.

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Old 12-23-2002 | 03:33 PM
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My friend had a "showcar" audio system, and he had to put in a second alternator.
Old 12-23-2002 | 03:47 PM
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Default The thing is $300

And you gain 10-15hp.
When I first post this, ppl are talking about $300 is too much for 15hp, they rather spend money on exhaust.... other mods to gain some REAL power. But for now, $300 seams to be a very good deal for 15hp.
I know some rather spend $2000 on exhaust to gain like 10hp. Maybe the exhaust note really worth the money.
Old 12-23-2002 | 03:55 PM
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The dual one is 600 and should be good for around 15 horsepower or more, I don't know too many mods besides a pulley for a supercharger or a bleeder valve for a turbo that have that bang for the buck. I don't know why people don't think this is a real mod. you are forcing air into the engine at very low boost. Why don't someone try it and dyno it, and this can be settled. In fact, better yet, forget the dyno, just hook up a boost gauge and see if it is registering boost, if it is, then obviously you are getting some power.
Old 12-23-2002 | 06:19 PM
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you guys might wanna check this out.

http://www.fast-technology.com/prod_in.html


is another version of "e-ram"
Old 12-23-2002 | 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by robl45
Total max output is 1400 watts, 100 amps.
How often do you plan on replacing your alternator? Battery? Imagine running 14seconds worth of a 1/4mile drawing 100amps the whole time.

Sure, the concept works, provided you could supply the necessary amperage to provide enough power to supply a decent amount of boost, but your alternator or battery could not even begin to. Here's an idea, get you could get a secondary engine source to power the "electric supercharger". Or better yet and more effecient, your could supply this off your engine with just a larger alternator... Or better yet, you could do away with the mechanical to electrical to mechanical energy conversion, AND JUST POWER THE COMPRESSOR DIRECTLY OFF YOUR ENGINE, OH WAIT, THAT'S CALLED A SUPERCHARGER!

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Old 12-23-2002 | 07:48 PM
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Also, it take one hell of a lot more power to COMPRESS air than it does merely to FLOW it.
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a supercharger costs 3-4k, we are talking 600 bucks here for 15 horsepower or so, and 100 amps is not that much, plenty of car stereos pull that much. And since it only goes on at full throttle, even dragging you would probably be giving it a rest. worst comes to worse, you add a strong battery in. not a big deal really.
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wait, it only comes on during full throttle? so for the rest of the time you have a huge obstruction in your intake? or is there a design part that Im missing?

sorry dude, I guess youll have to spend 600$ to learn if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. cant say we didnt try.
Old 12-23-2002 | 08:22 PM
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in theory you could have it on whenever you want, but it is designed to come on only under full throttle, when not under full throttle, it just sits there, but doens't block the intak. If anything, its smoothing the air out.
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Originally posted by robl45
Why don't someone try it and dyno it, and this can be settled.
I could not agree more.

If you are so positive that these POS are going to work why haven't you already purchased one? Why don't you order one, install it, and send us those dyno graphs !

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well I"m short on cash at the moment or I would order one and test it.
Old 12-24-2002 | 07:10 AM
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You could always get about a dozen 4 inch PC cooling fans and hook them up in series. They are only about $1.50 each and should provide about an additional 3 HP.

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lol, wow, unbelievable. please tell me nobody bought these things, and especially for 600 bucks!?!? thats outrageous, but i guess a "sucker" is born every second. it makes it worst because you guys are supposed to be z owners, not honduh boys, do some research, and read up on a product before you spend money on it!!! btw ive got an electric turbocharger ill sell yall for 2500 bucks, guaranteed to produce 20 extra horsepowha!
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Old 12-24-2002 | 10:16 AM
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hmm, we are doing research on it and we are reading up on it, whats your point?
Old 12-24-2002 | 10:23 AM
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Default Re: it's snake oil...

Originally posted by 0to60in5
i can't believe you think this thing actually will give you increase in hp. if it just sits there, it's restricting air flow. how on earth can it smooth out the air? there's resistance!

I don't believe the smooth air part either, but it does not seam restrict air pathway neither. When I installed mine newer version, I had the filter and eRAM installed first but didn't connect power. (I needed a solder iron to do the job). At that day, I raced a TTZ(maybe stock) and won, An moded WRX and did haed to head. And eRAM do have dyno to prove it there is no HP lose even it just sit there.

You can argue with that but you can'r deny the fact when you are not at WOT, you don't need all the power. Otherwise you would press down gas a little further, right? And when you do, WHOLA, there is additional 5% more eRAM power for you, isn't that idea good? And time yourself next time, for how long you can keep WOT when drive/race. Guys, we are talking about Z here. Any time longer than 15 seconds, you are at above 100mph. Any longer than 30 seconds you are about to enter a jail or hospital. I just don't think the concept it only come up at WOT is a problem.

I have eRAM for two years now(2 generations) and I am happy with it. I also like to amuse my friend by making my eRAM scream when engine is off.

I am also watching if any newer porduct will come up. To be honest, I think the new Fast Technology thing may work great. I also fit my entire eRAM inside a K&N filter, and I also thought about mount the motor against the intake pipe like they did. Besides, their motor is about 5000 rpm faster then eRAMs' I will keep watching.
Old 12-24-2002 | 10:26 AM
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dyno or ban!
Old 12-24-2002 | 10:42 AM
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Default Hi robl45

Originally posted by robl45
well I"m short on cash at the moment or I would order one and test it.
I will say save $300 and just buy one. The inline 2 doesn't give you 2psi. They claim eRAM is 1 psi supercharger since it take out the 0.5psi vacuum at intake and push it to 0.5psi postive. They didn't say but my guess is when you run inline 2 you are about getting 1.0psi postive while using twice as much elec power.

If you think that's worth it, then go ahead. Check eBay and you will find they are selling one every ten days for better price on eBAY as advertise.
Old 12-24-2002 | 10:55 AM
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claims on the site 1psi for the eram, 1.7psi for the supereram, you don't think the supereram does anymore thant he eram?



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