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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary Evans
I have yet to see a dyno graph on the Turbonetics system. Could some one point one out.
Heres one during preliminary testing. The AFR for this run went as low as 9.5:1 and as high as 10:1....this was during the testing phase..


http://members.***.net/w.suarez/350dyno11-15-04.pdf
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 05:12 AM
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Heres another from testing...
Attached Thumbnails APS, where's the post-Easter Single turbo system update?-350z-8-psi-405-hp166kb1.jpg  
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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Thanks but these two charts do not appear to be for the same system. Look at the 4500 rpm hp. On the first its 300 and on the second its under 200. A/F would not account for that large a differance. Perhaps these were differant compressors and or turbine A/R's being evaluated. Hasn't Turbonetics released anything official on the final design?
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 11:51 PM
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Hi Guys,

The APS Intercooled Single Turbo system web page has just been updated with a number of new images and additional information. There are many updates still to come over the next 3-4 weeks - hope you find the information interesting.

See http://www.**************/350z/single/it_system.htm

George
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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NICE!!! Thanks George
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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Hmmm...

New pics seem to reveal it will not work with my true dual exhaust system since the pipe runs past the stock cat exits.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by xxlbeerZ
Hmmm...

New pics seem to reveal it will not work with my true dual exhaust system.

This sucks because I just installed a Greddy Evo2 last weekend. When I ordered it I was planning on going TT. Oh well hopefully SGP can fab up a single-to-dual fitting to make it work, otherwise I don't know what I'll do. I REALLY don't want to change exhausts.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ccartwright
This sucks because I just installed a Greddy Evo2 last weekend. When I ordered it I was planning on going TT. Oh well hopefully SGP can fab up a single-to-dual fitting to make it work, otherwise I don't know what I'll do. I REALLY don't want to change exhausts.
I'm seriously at the point where I'm questioning whether or not I'll do this anymore..... I have the Greddy Evo2 as well...Guess I'll just wait and see what APS says about our true duals
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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Just back to work today after a short vacation so I will post more info on the APS single turbo system later this week after I catch up with our guys in our engineering department, on a different note I just viewed the final pre-production APS plenum today...........it's just beautiful...........a reak work of art.



I will put some additional pressure on our web guy this week and try to get many more pics of the APS single turbo system on the APS web site (maybe even a small video for you guys).

Don't panic guys, all is well under way with the APS intercooled single turbo project and if the APS/Garrett GT series turbos are delivered on schedule production of the system will start in early May, product in the US by early June.

I promise this APS product will be worth waiting for, please be patient, you will be rewarded with a techinically superior FI product, thorough engineering and most complete FI product available for the Z car, all good.

Peter
More pics and info of the final pre-pod plenum too. Please..
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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I would like to see a layout of everything that's going to come with the kit... because by the looks of it, I don't see what's worth $5,500 (now $4,500 sounds better) - only one turbo, no manifolds, and to top it off my Injen SES would have to be modified to work with this... Price is going to be a big factor between going with this and the TT kit (but it's still APS either way )
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bwzabodyn
I would like to see a layout of everything that's going to come with the kit... because by the looks of it, I don't see what's worth $5,500 (now $4,500 sounds better) - only one turbo, no manifolds, and to top it off my Injen SES would have to be modified to work with this... Price is going to be a big factor between going with this and the TT kit (but it's still APS either way )

Yeah I agree to a point. It's probably worth $5k considering the other don't have an oil pan, CAS wire, and return fuel system.

I would think that most people shopping these kits already have a true dual exhaust so they should offer it with a Y pipe right off the turbo to connect to the TD exhaust.

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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If this kit were $4500 all said and done, I'd buy it without thinking. And so would everyone else.
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Turbonetics is 4500 right??? a return fuel kit cost about 1000 from what ive seen.....an oil pan 400 from APS and CAS wire 80.... so your looking about 6000 buying these things seperate to make a Turbonetics kit equal the amount of things included in the APS kit (if you feel the need to be safer).... The twin kit cost 7500 so minus one turbo and manifolds 6000 seems right about what I would expect..... if a group buy listed a price of 5500 or less I would buy one..... I still wish the APS kit would be cheaper but i for one dont expect much less than 6000.....IMO
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by redline350ZZ
Turbonetics is 4500 right??? a return fuel kit cost about 1000 from what ive seen.....an oil pan 400 from APS and CAS wire 80.... so your looking about 6000 buying these things seperate to make a Turbonetics kit equal the amount of things included in the APS kit (if you feel the need to be safer).... The twin kit cost 7500 so minus one turbo and manifolds 6000 seems right about what I would expect..... if a group buy listed a price of 5500 or less I would buy one..... I still wish the APS kit would be cheaper but i for one dont expect much less than 6000.....IMO
You're prolly right. And although APS is knows their costs, and is seasoned enough to know what price to charge, there's no reason to give them reasons to charge more. so SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Seems like import car mods are so expensive. I'd love to start a business and undercut everyone. Hey, who knows, maybe I will.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by xxlbeerZ
Hmmm...

New pics seem to reveal it will not work with my true dual exhaust system since the pipe runs past the stock cat exits.
You can continue to utilise a TD exhaust the same way we have on the APS engineering car, you just need to fab a Y pipe to connect back to your exhaust system like we have, look at the 9th pic down on this link. http://www.************************/35.../it_system.htm

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ccartwright
This sucks because I just installed a Greddy Evo2 last weekend. When I ordered it I was planning on going TT. Oh well hopefully SGP can fab up a single-to-dual fitting to make it work, otherwise I don't know what I'll do. I REALLY don't want to change exhausts.
I'm sure the guys at SGP will be able to produce a simple Y connector pipe for you, really it's a very basic part to produce and the TD sounds really cool on the Z car, a lot like a 911 Porsche.

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Originally Posted by APS
You can continue to utilise a TD exhaust the same way we have on the APS engineering car, you just need to fab a Y pipe to connect back to your exhaust system like we have, look at the 9th pic down on this link. http://www.************************/35.../it_system.htm

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Does that Y go to where the cats ended or to the middle of the exhaust?
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by redline350ZZ
Turbonetics is 4500 right??? a return fuel kit cost about 1000 from what ive seen.....an oil pan 400 from APS and CAS wire 80.... so your looking about 6000 buying these things seperate to make a Turbonetics kit equal the amount of things included in the APS kit (if you feel the need to be safer).... The twin kit cost 7500 so minus one turbo and manifolds 6000 seems right about what I would expect..... if a group buy listed a price of 5500 or less I would buy one..... I still wish the APS kit would be cheaper but i for one dont expect much less than 6000.....IMO
It's kind of pseudo fuel return system, not like the $1000 sets. Oil pan SOLD SEPERATELY costs that much, I doubt they cost near that much to produce and include in the kit. Cas wire is just a shield I believe NOT a full replacement wire. These items are nice to have, but not all that pricey.

The reason this kit will be higher priced is the turbo IMO. The other stuff only adds a couple of hundred to the overall cost of the other kits. The turbo and importation is what probably adds up!

The main reason I'm looking at the APS kit is safety, have to see how much that safety will cost!


Also keep in mind the Turbnetics includes additional piping with a nicer finish and polished parts. A $600 ECU reflash, AC line, etc.

I hope the group buy price is low, or else this kit ain't really worth it. Turbonetics + an oil pan + CAS wire + cheap fuel return is only about $5k. BB turbo is nice, but not necessary. The Turbonetics has their upgraded thrust bearing.

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by zman1910
I'm seriously at the point where I'm questioning whether or not I'll do this anymore..... I have the Greddy Evo2 as well...Guess I'll just wait and see what APS says about our true duals
Don't panic, the Y piece connection pipe is no big deal to have made, it's not practical for APS to develop and supply this Y connection part without having every brand of TD exhaust on hand in Oz.

On a more positive note APS will release a TD 2.5'' exhaust system with the Y connector to suit the APS single turbo system in the near future (I know this won't help you now though it will make life a little easier for the guys who want to run a highly developed TD 2.5 '' exhaust in the future) which will easily handle very high Horsepower.

Thanks

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Could you post some better/ more close up shots of this pic



Again I'm concerned about possible road damage but a better pic could dispell this...
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