NismoGCoupe

Is it possible that the head was not torqued down right and maybe that the cause of the leak?

NismoGCoupe

If the cause is due to the sleeve sinking he can definitely make them pay for disassemble & reassembling, honestly if I was in his situation I would not pay for anything especially if I was not at fault

Sharif@Forged

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Yeah, unfortuantely, with high performance race parts, its unlikely you can get a manufactuer to pay for labor costs, loss of use, or other incidental costs. Most manufacturers will stand behind the parts...but with so many variables at play, they arent going to cover labor that they didnt perform themselves.

Hope things work out soon!!!

NismoGCoupe

Theirs no reason the sleeve should sink if it was done correctly if this is indeed the cause of the leak AEBS should be responsible for all the labor

NismoGCoupe

Honestly I hope it wouldn't have to resort to this but he can sue and be a real ******* about this situation, like you said above labor costs, loss of use, or other incidental costs, he can sue for all that if he really wants to

johnlotusboy

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The problem is the nip height, my Lotus if it was the model with steel sleeves they must be left .006 above the deck height due to aluminum motor growing when heated up. Mine runs aluminum w/nikasil (sp) coating and are set in the block .003 under deck height. I say the shop that is doing the machine work doesn't have a clue, or the manufacture didn't give them the right specs.

MIAPLAYA

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Actually in this case I have to agree that AEBS is responsible. There are NUMEROUS stories by engine builders in the Sentra world that had problems with AEBS sleeves sinking. Most recently the owner of FIR (a mostly Sentra and 240 tuning shop) got a QR25DE from a Spec V sleeved by AEBS. The motor had a total of ONE boosted run before the sleeves sunk. He pulled the motor apart and did a full inspection. He contacted AEBS and told them what happened and they re-sleeved another block they had at their shop and sent it to him no cost....Gurgen if you haven't already talked to Ben I would do so ASAP. He's usually pretty good with customers (if hes not worrying about his go kart track). Plus this has been a high profile build from day one and I would most CERTAINLY let him know that.

bwzabodyn

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I'll say a prayer for you, Gurgen - maybe divine intervention will work!

But seriously, this does suck to hear this - pioneers like yourself who are paving new paths for a mostly untested platform should be rewarded by taking risks, not destructed... I could see the stock motor blowing, but then a FORGED motor and now a SLEEVED BLOCK?!?!? Ridiculous....

Sharif@Forged

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What I am saying...is that i agree that if the sleeve sunk, AEBS should pay for the new sleeves and labor to remove/reinstall the sleaves and components. However, I dont see them picking up the other costs, like removing the engine from the car, reinstallation of the engine, turbo kit, incidental costs...etc.

If they did..that would be AWESOME...but unprecedented in the high performance car parts industry.

NismoGCoupe

I understand what your saying, what I think gurgen should do is give them an option pay for everything like removing the engine from the car, redoing the sleeves, reinstallation of the engine, turbo kit & whatever other expenses, if they donÃÕ want to do that bring them to court and sue them for all labor costs plus having another machine shop(like SPG) redoing the sleeves. There would be no way he would lose that case as long as this problem is due to the sleeve sinking.

turbo-maxima

If AEBS did the machine work. I would make them pay for it. Thats BS!!!!

NismoGCoupe

Exactly this is not the first VQ they've sleeved, they have done plenty of them

g356gear

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But there are only a couple that have been run so far....1 went bad....pretty crappy odds. Others have been done but not fired yet. Fingers crossed for those gentlemen.

bwzabodyn

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Honestly, unless you are looking at building a 800-1000hp purpose-built track car (ie unstreetable), this route just doesn't justify the risk/reward factor... just my $0.02....

fernandito7

iTrader: (2)

Man that really sucks. Hope everything works out.

NismoGCoupe

Are you saying one motor other then gurgens problem? since the problem with gurgens block is not definet yet.

350zDCalb

iTrader: (21)

you are referring to sleeving the block as not being necessary..i assume??
please clarify

Brandon@Forged

Not unless you are doing 650-700rwhp on a daily driver...no. Even then, I would get Darton before AEBS.

350zDCalb

iTrader: (21)

i should have made more clear my question

i understand the implication of when to sleeve a block...i was inquiring as to what bwz was trying to say in his post...he says "this route" and i was asking if he was referring to the sleeving process, that's all :

Originally Posted by bwzabodyn
Honestly, unless you are looking at building a 800-1000hp purpose-built track car (ie unstreetable), this route just doesn't justify the risk/reward factor... just my $0.02....

g356gear

iTrader: (12)

No....just Gurgens....and we have talked about his symptoms...I would put money on it at this point.