WTF!!! Just dynoed....woooooooah!!!
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From: Albuquerque, NM
Originally Posted by t32gzz
Nice numbers. Congrats. Any chance you can share the non corrected numbers? Just curious to see what those look like.
i spoke about this subject earlier in the thread...it is not an exact science on turboed cars at this altitude
probably 520rwhp...500-510tq
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
The tuning was very good...Brody from SPEEDLAB in ALbuquerque, NM did the tuning (they built going deeps and my car) 505-830-0944...
Ernie (going deep) will make a whole bunch more power with some of his timing added back in...they pulled an ungodly ammount on his tune--assuming that for such a high power application, they would need to pull all that timing to clean up the curves of the tune and ensure the margin of safety...
but, on my dyno session, they started with pulling 10 degrees, slowly adding timing back in, it liked that...safe A/F with 8 degrees total timing being pulled (going deep had 17 degrees pulled---gimme back the timing!!!)
Ernie (going deep) will make a whole bunch more power with some of his timing added back in...they pulled an ungodly ammount on his tune--assuming that for such a high power application, they would need to pull all that timing to clean up the curves of the tune and ensure the margin of safety...
but, on my dyno session, they started with pulling 10 degrees, slowly adding timing back in, it liked that...safe A/F with 8 degrees total timing being pulled (going deep had 17 degrees pulled---gimme back the timing!!!)
Retune already on the schedule, bahaha.
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Originally Posted by GurgenPB
Incredible, Todd.... congrats...
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thx man... you can come out here and drive my car anytime! i feel for you for all of the trouble you have had!
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Originally Posted by Juztin
absolutely sick!
When my bud had his supra being tuned, @ 23-24psi he was putting down around 630rwhp. But the fact that you're in the 600 range on just 16psi!?!? Holy ****, that's absolutely awsome. Do you have any plenum/ported heads mods that might increase the amount of CFM you can flow over stock to have such a good number at lower numbers? Last I heard GQ is running higher than you by about 4+ pounds and not breaking the 6's yet. Only thing I can think of outside is he's pulling much more timing than you. But man that is awsome, great work!
When my bud had his supra being tuned, @ 23-24psi he was putting down around 630rwhp. But the fact that you're in the 600 range on just 16psi!?!? Holy ****, that's absolutely awsome. Do you have any plenum/ported heads mods that might increase the amount of CFM you can flow over stock to have such a good number at lower numbers? Last I heard GQ is running higher than you by about 4+ pounds and not breaking the 6's yet. Only thing I can think of outside is he's pulling much more timing than you. But man that is awsome, great work!
i may do head work in the future, as for now, i'll be happy with these numbers for a LONGGGGGGGG time...i put the 19's on today, so i'll actually be able to use 1st and 2nd gear
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
the heads/ cams are completely stock-stock plenum as well, gq pulled a bunch more timing-jis ecu was flashed for a pretty aggressive timing retard...when he adds the timing back in, he'll make more power for sure...
i may do head work in the future, as for now, i'll be happy with these numbers for a LONGGGGGGGG time...i put the 19's on today, so i'll actually be able to use 1st and 2nd gear
i may do head work in the future, as for now, i'll be happy with these numbers for a LONGGGGGGGG time...i put the 19's on today, so i'll actually be able to use 1st and 2nd gear
actually, the added rotational mass and the added tread width will definitely help out - but you're still not going to hook up a whole he11 of a lot with 600 FRICKIN' WHP! Ridiculous!
seeing all these posts is really making me reconsider my goals... 400whp on stock internals w/ APS ST this year, or wait a year or so and go 550whp with forged internals w/ APS TT... I honestly think for me though, anything over 400 whp will be overkill, seeing as I'm not at the drags or the track every other weekend... I guess I'll have to just do like the others and see how long I can last on 400whp and only HOPE that it will suffice!
seeing all these posts is really making me reconsider my goals... 400whp on stock internals w/ APS ST this year, or wait a year or so and go 550whp with forged internals w/ APS TT... I honestly think for me though, anything over 400 whp will be overkill, seeing as I'm not at the drags or the track every other weekend... I guess I'll have to just do like the others and see how long I can last on 400whp and only HOPE that it will suffice!
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Originally Posted by bwzabodyn
actually, the added rotational mass and the added tread width will definitely help out - but you're still not going to hook up a whole he11 of a lot with 600 FRICKIN' WHP! Ridiculous!
seeing all these posts is really making me reconsider my goals... 400whp on stock internals w/ APS ST this year, or wait a year or so and go 550whp with forged internals w/ APS TT... I honestly think for me though, anything over 400 whp will be overkill, seeing as I'm not at the drags or the track every other weekend... I guess I'll have to just do like the others and see how long I can last on 400whp and only HOPE that it will suffice!
seeing all these posts is really making me reconsider my goals... 400whp on stock internals w/ APS ST this year, or wait a year or so and go 550whp with forged internals w/ APS TT... I honestly think for me though, anything over 400 whp will be overkill, seeing as I'm not at the drags or the track every other weekend... I guess I'll have to just do like the others and see how long I can last on 400whp and only HOPE that it will suffice!
Make sure you get a good tuner....
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the heads/ cams are completely stock-stock plenum as well, gq pulled a bunch more timing-jis ecu was flashed for a pretty aggressive timing retard...when he adds the timing back in, he'll make more power for sure...
i may do head work in the future, as for now, i'll be happy with these numbers for a LONGGGGGGGG time...i put the 19's on today, so i'll actually be able to use 1st and 2nd gear
i may do head work in the future, as for now, i'll be happy with these numbers for a LONGGGGGGGG time...i put the 19's on today, so i'll actually be able to use 1st and 2nd gear
Yup, and hey....not to steal from Todd's numbers...but this isnt 600whp at sea level...maybe low to mid 500 range. So net net, my numbers a little bit lower due to too little timing in my TS reflash. I actually have the ECU coming back to me with 18 degrees of timing at WOT...which should REALLY help my top end power.
Back to the topic at hand...congratulations!!!
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Originally Posted by Enron Exec
Very nice! But your going to need better rubber, not bigger wheels. If anything, the 19"s are going to cause you to slip even harder. Put some drag radials on a set of your wheels for the weekends.
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Originally Posted by Royal_T
man that is Sweeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!
when are you going to post pics of the new rims
when are you going to post pics of the new rims
..should be here in about an hour..i'll have them on by tonight...TODD
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Originally Posted by gq_626
Yup, and hey....not to steal from Todd's numbers...but this isnt 600whp at sea level...maybe low to mid 500 range. So net net, my numbers a little bit lower due to too little timing in my TS reflash. I actually have the ECU coming back to me with 18 degrees of timing at WOT...which should REALLY help my top end power.
Back to the topic at hand...congratulations!!!
Back to the topic at hand...congratulations!!!
i do think the heads/cams are limiting me now...i'm pulling 5-8 degrees total...the timing definately put the power back in...brody experimented and dynoed pulling 15 degrees---lost 75 or so horsepower!!!
pulled 10...power curve looked a bit choppy in parts
pulled 8 at the right of the map---smoothed out..ummm ummm good
Don't SAE correct boosted cars ESPECIALLY turbos at high altitude...that's more accurately ~515whp for your 16psi dyno with a LOW 1.17 correction factor. I've seen cars at that altitude correct 20-24%, even 27% once, which is a JOKE for FI guys to use. Might as well just add 20-30% to all the sea level dynos to level the playing field. SAE correction is for NA cars wheezing at altitude NOT FI guys with wastegate regulated turbos providing their own atmospheric pressure.
High altitude FI guys that post hyper-inflated SAE numbers should AT LEAST show/post the correction factor, so we can somewhat compare you to the non-mile high club cars.
Your UNcorrected numbers would be closer to what others dyno even without the temp/humidity correction.
High altitude FI guys that post hyper-inflated SAE numbers should AT LEAST show/post the correction factor, so we can somewhat compare you to the non-mile high club cars.
Your UNcorrected numbers would be closer to what others dyno even without the temp/humidity correction.