WTF!!! Just dynoed....woooooooah!!!
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You must either be rich or not have a girlfriend/wife to drop that kinda money on car mods. Although I read a magazine article that said gay couples have some of the highest disposable incomes... 
Mind if I ask what you do for a living?
Mind if I ask what you do for a living?
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Originally Posted by sselway
You must either be rich or not have a girlfriend/wife to drop that kinda money on car mods. Although I read a magazine article that said gay couples have some of the highest disposable incomes...
Mind if I ask what you do for a living?
Mind if I ask what you do for a living?
I do have a girlfriend...and I am a chiropractor(DC) hence "350zDC"
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1Max
Not yelling...just stressing the points intermixed with the rest of the BS. There isn't one for FI guys...that I know of. However, if a NA vehicle would lose 21% of rated power in your area, then assuming a CF of ~1.266 would mean your 603whp corrected is about 476whp uncorrected NOT including adding back temp/humidity/compressor efficiency loss.
All you should correct for is temp/humidity...maybe 2-3%(ignoring IC benefits)...then to more accurately adjust, add 1-2% loss for compressor efficiency(2nd or 3rd efficiency island), since your turbos are spinning faster to produce the SAME 16psi. If we say a 5% max correction is necessary, you'd take 476whp and correct temp/humidity/eLoss to ~500whp.
Whatever you choose, the UNcorrected numbers/chart would be FAR closer to what your "real world" numbers would be. Anytime you *ADD* 100whp or more to your uncorrected numbers via a correction factor, that should make you question/think why.
Any way you slice it, your car at sea level wouldn't hit much over 500whp@16psi, most likely, so people trying to compare your dyno to theirs aren't going to be comparing apples-to-apples and will be asking WHY. It is unfair for you slightly to not correct for the temp/humidity and some compressor efficiency loss, however it is far more unfair to compare your SAE inflated numbers against others.
Any chance you'll be taking it to the track?
All you should correct for is temp/humidity...maybe 2-3%(ignoring IC benefits)...then to more accurately adjust, add 1-2% loss for compressor efficiency(2nd or 3rd efficiency island), since your turbos are spinning faster to produce the SAME 16psi. If we say a 5% max correction is necessary, you'd take 476whp and correct temp/humidity/eLoss to ~500whp.
Whatever you choose, the UNcorrected numbers/chart would be FAR closer to what your "real world" numbers would be. Anytime you *ADD* 100whp or more to your uncorrected numbers via a correction factor, that should make you question/think why.
Any way you slice it, your car at sea level wouldn't hit much over 500whp@16psi, most likely, so people trying to compare your dyno to theirs aren't going to be comparing apples-to-apples and will be asking WHY. It is unfair for you slightly to not correct for the temp/humidity and some compressor efficiency loss, however it is far more unfair to compare your SAE inflated numbers against others.
Any chance you'll be taking it to the track?
At the same Dyno my car at that time made 481hp and 499ft tq.
Ever hear of AGP turbo in the Phoenix area? They had a similar equiped shop car over there dyno 490hp and 497ft tq.
Now, what is the elevation at Firebird Raceway? 1100ft? So they are still not quite sea level.
They ran there car at the track and I ran mine...
AGP ran a 11.7 and trapped 125mph, my car ran a 11.8 and trapped 124.5mph.
The track they used is far better then ours.
Our sae numbers and track times equaled AGP, and the air density was 6500ft when my car went 11.80... hows that for 'real world numbers' as you put it?
And this wasn't a matter of me running more boost, as I ran as much boost as my 50 trim turbo would flow both on the dyno and at the track....
again AGP in the Phoenix metro area isn't sea level and even their dyno used correction factors however they should be closer to sea level numbers then me, obviously, yet we made similar numbers and ran similar times.
The correction factors used at the dynos edge (which I don't know exactly what they are) have proven to be pretty darn accurate time and time again.
They had a turbo mustang make 500hp, this mustang then went and dynoed in Los Angeles California a week later and was actually 5hp higher then the sae numbers from dynos edge.
The numbers posted by Todd and Ernie are fabulous, congratulations fellas....
Since you 2 had dynoed at Dyno's Edge before, regardless of SAE numbers, you both still saw some nice gains with more boost, which is to be expected.
I encourage you two to tread with caution, as these power levels will reveal other weak links in the car. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by sselway
You must either be rich or not have a girlfriend/wife to drop that kinda money on car mods. Although I read a magazine article that said gay couples have some of the highest disposable incomes...
Mind if I ask what you do for a living?
Mind if I ask what you do for a living?
we have actually witness Todd working several busy intersections with a large sign, crappy clothes, and a dirty unshaved look.
The sign he had said,
"Will Work For Boost"
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Originally Posted by LittleMT
Here is some food for thought mr. Tuscon....
At the same Dyno my car at that time made 481hp and 499ft tq.
Ever hear of AGP turbo in the Phoenix area? They had a similar equiped shop car over there dyno 490hp and 497ft tq.
Now, what is the elevation at Firebird Raceway? 1100ft? So they are still not quite sea level.
They ran there car at the track and I ran mine...
AGP ran a 11.7 and trapped 125mph, my car ran a 11.8 and trapped 124.5mph.
The track they used is far better then ours.
Our sae numbers and track times equaled AGP, and the air density was 6500ft when my car went 11.80... hows that for 'real world numbers' as you put it?
And this wasn't a matter of me running more boost, as I ran as much boost as my 50 trim turbo would flow both on the dyno and at the track....
again AGP in the Phoenix metro area isn't sea level and even their dyno used correction factors however they should be closer to sea level numbers then me, obviously, yet we made similar numbers and ran similar times.
The correction factors used at the dynos edge (which I don't know exactly what they are) have proven to be pretty darn accurate time and time again.
They had a turbo mustang make 500hp, this mustang then went and dynoed in Los Angeles California a week later and was actually 5hp higher then the sae numbers from dynos edge.
The numbers posted by Todd and Ernie are fabulous, congratulations fellas....
Since you 2 had dynoed at Dyno's Edge before, regardless of SAE numbers, you both still saw some nice gains with more boost, which is to be expected.
I encourage you two to tread with caution, as these power levels will reveal other weak links in the car. Good luck!
At the same Dyno my car at that time made 481hp and 499ft tq.
Ever hear of AGP turbo in the Phoenix area? They had a similar equiped shop car over there dyno 490hp and 497ft tq.
Now, what is the elevation at Firebird Raceway? 1100ft? So they are still not quite sea level.
They ran there car at the track and I ran mine...
AGP ran a 11.7 and trapped 125mph, my car ran a 11.8 and trapped 124.5mph.
The track they used is far better then ours.
Our sae numbers and track times equaled AGP, and the air density was 6500ft when my car went 11.80... hows that for 'real world numbers' as you put it?
And this wasn't a matter of me running more boost, as I ran as much boost as my 50 trim turbo would flow both on the dyno and at the track....
again AGP in the Phoenix metro area isn't sea level and even their dyno used correction factors however they should be closer to sea level numbers then me, obviously, yet we made similar numbers and ran similar times.
The correction factors used at the dynos edge (which I don't know exactly what they are) have proven to be pretty darn accurate time and time again.
They had a turbo mustang make 500hp, this mustang then went and dynoed in Los Angeles California a week later and was actually 5hp higher then the sae numbers from dynos edge.
The numbers posted by Todd and Ernie are fabulous, congratulations fellas....
Since you 2 had dynoed at Dyno's Edge before, regardless of SAE numbers, you both still saw some nice gains with more boost, which is to be expected.
I encourage you two to tread with caution, as these power levels will reveal other weak links in the car. Good luck!
As mentioned before, I will be doing a dyno retune in Chicago, according to a google search is at ~600 Feet above sea level. The first run I am going to do is at the same boost I have here in Alb. That would be another "real world number" test!
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Originally Posted by LittleMT
Here is some food for thought mr. Tuscon....
At the same Dyno my car at that time made 481hp and 499ft tq.
Ever hear of AGP turbo in the Phoenix area? They had a similar equiped shop car over there dyno 490hp and 497ft tq.
Now, what is the elevation at Firebird Raceway? 1100ft? So they are still not quite sea level.
They ran there car at the track and I ran mine...
AGP ran a 11.7 and trapped 125mph, my car ran a 11.8 and trapped 124.5mph.
The track they used is far better then ours.
Our sae numbers and track times equaled AGP, and the air density was 6500ft when my car went 11.80... hows that for 'real world numbers' as you put it?
And this wasn't a matter of me running more boost, as I ran as much boost as my 50 trim turbo would flow both on the dyno and at the track....
again AGP in the Phoenix metro area isn't sea level and even their dyno used correction factors however they should be closer to sea level numbers then me, obviously, yet we made similar numbers and ran similar times.
The correction factors used at the dynos edge (which I don't know exactly what they are) have proven to be pretty darn accurate time and time again.
They had a turbo mustang make 500hp, this mustang then went and dynoed in Los Angeles California a week later and was actually 5hp higher then the sae numbers from dynos edge.
The numbers posted by Todd and Ernie are fabulous, congratulations fellas....
Since you 2 had dynoed at Dyno's Edge before, regardless of SAE numbers, you both still saw some nice gains with more boost, which is to be expected.
I encourage you two to tread with caution, as these power levels will reveal other weak links in the car. Good luck!
At the same Dyno my car at that time made 481hp and 499ft tq.
Ever hear of AGP turbo in the Phoenix area? They had a similar equiped shop car over there dyno 490hp and 497ft tq.
Now, what is the elevation at Firebird Raceway? 1100ft? So they are still not quite sea level.
They ran there car at the track and I ran mine...
AGP ran a 11.7 and trapped 125mph, my car ran a 11.8 and trapped 124.5mph.
The track they used is far better then ours.
Our sae numbers and track times equaled AGP, and the air density was 6500ft when my car went 11.80... hows that for 'real world numbers' as you put it?
And this wasn't a matter of me running more boost, as I ran as much boost as my 50 trim turbo would flow both on the dyno and at the track....
again AGP in the Phoenix metro area isn't sea level and even their dyno used correction factors however they should be closer to sea level numbers then me, obviously, yet we made similar numbers and ran similar times.
The correction factors used at the dynos edge (which I don't know exactly what they are) have proven to be pretty darn accurate time and time again.
They had a turbo mustang make 500hp, this mustang then went and dynoed in Los Angeles California a week later and was actually 5hp higher then the sae numbers from dynos edge.
The numbers posted by Todd and Ernie are fabulous, congratulations fellas....
Since you 2 had dynoed at Dyno's Edge before, regardless of SAE numbers, you both still saw some nice gains with more boost, which is to be expected.
I encourage you two to tread with caution, as these power levels will reveal other weak links in the car. Good luck!
Bottm line...the car is frickin fast!!! if this guy wants to get his panties in a knot because whatever whatever--good for him...the car is fast...i guestimate it doesn't lose the 18% that the NA cars do up here...the only way i would know is to go dyno at sea level w/ the same boost--that won't happen anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by LittleMT
we have actually witness Todd working several busy intersections with a large sign, crappy clothes, and a dirty unshaved look.
The sign he had said,
"Will Work For Boost"
The sign he had said,
"Will Work For Boost"
LMAO!!!
i can make pretty good money on the streets- i guess i have the face that people feel sorry for!
Originally Posted by IceY2K1Max
Not yelling...just stressing the points intermixed with the rest of the BS. There isn't one for FI guys...that I know of. However, if a NA vehicle would lose 21% of rated power in your area, then assuming a CF of ~1.266 would mean your 603whp corrected is about 476whp uncorrected NOT including adding back temp/humidity/compressor efficiency loss.
All you should correct for is temp/humidity...maybe 2-3%(ignoring IC benefits)...then to more accurately adjust, add 1-2% loss for compressor efficiency(2nd or 3rd efficiency island), since your turbos are spinning faster to produce the SAME 16psi. If we say a 5% max correction is necessary, you'd take 476whp and correct temp/humidity/eLoss to ~500whp.
Whatever you choose, the UNcorrected numbers/chart would be FAR closer to what your "real world" numbers would be. Anytime you *ADD* 100whp or more to your uncorrected numbers via a correction factor, that should make you question/think why.
Any way you slice it, your car at sea level wouldn't hit much over 500whp@16psi, most likely, so people trying to compare your dyno to theirs aren't going to be comparing apples-to-apples and will be asking WHY. It is unfair for you slightly to not correct for the temp/humidity and some compressor efficiency loss, however it is far more unfair to compare your SAE inflated numbers against others.
Any chance you'll be taking it to the track?
All you should correct for is temp/humidity...maybe 2-3%(ignoring IC benefits)...then to more accurately adjust, add 1-2% loss for compressor efficiency(2nd or 3rd efficiency island), since your turbos are spinning faster to produce the SAME 16psi. If we say a 5% max correction is necessary, you'd take 476whp and correct temp/humidity/eLoss to ~500whp.
Whatever you choose, the UNcorrected numbers/chart would be FAR closer to what your "real world" numbers would be. Anytime you *ADD* 100whp or more to your uncorrected numbers via a correction factor, that should make you question/think why.
Any way you slice it, your car at sea level wouldn't hit much over 500whp@16psi, most likely, so people trying to compare your dyno to theirs aren't going to be comparing apples-to-apples and will be asking WHY. It is unfair for you slightly to not correct for the temp/humidity and some compressor efficiency loss, however it is far more unfair to compare your SAE inflated numbers against others.
Any chance you'll be taking it to the track?
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a little green monster is coming out...
Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
A Z right here in chicago (~600ftmsl) hit 511rwhp on 11psi a few months ago...how do you figure that a Z with 16psi fully tuned wouldn't make any better numbers?
so, mr tuscon (as little MT named you)...i think your number is up
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
thank you thank you
so, mr tuscon (as little MT named you)...i think your number is up
I mean't to say Tucson, as in Tucson AZ, as in were he is from. I was figuring he is probably aware of AGP turbo whom is in neighboring Phoenix...
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Originally Posted by phunk
Todd I am very happy for you that your project is working out.
This was on all done on the prototype crank trigger wire wired how I told your tuner, correct?
This was on all done on the prototype crank trigger wire wired how I told your tuner, correct?
yah man!!! thx again..couldn't have done it without you (or at least--i could have done it ,, but would have been paranoid that some irradic signal from the crank angle sensor was gonna blow my forged motor---now i sleep better at night!)
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Originally Posted by LittleMT
I mean't to say Tucson, as in Tucson AZ, as in were he is from. I was figuring he is probably aware of AGP turbo whom is in neighboring Phoenix...
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
This car is da ****......looks like there are a couple of jealous people on this thread.
HELP A BRUTHA OUT PLEASE!!!
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Originally Posted by phunk
Todd I am very happy for you that your project is working out.
This was on all done on the prototype crank trigger wire wired how I told your tuner, correct?
This was on all done on the prototype crank trigger wire wired how I told your tuner, correct?
WooHoo Charles, see you in 12 days for a sealevel retune!
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WooHoo Charles, see you in 12 days for a sealevel retune!
if u break these rules again, you will be destroyed
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