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Old 06-14-2005 | 09:39 PM
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Thanks. I appreciate the concern! Actually that was very mild considering everything. Racing sportbikes these things happen all the time. When most people talk about working out they do it to make themselves feel better. I do it because it's the difference between breaking an collarbone and a strained trap muscle. The only problem is it's ruined my respect for speed. I wish I had someone to 4wheel with here. Good luck on the build.
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dam dude!!! lucky to still be around or not in the hospital! mine were just simple rolls doing some side hilling climbs on steep sand walls. but i did bend my handle bars with my face hitting a switchback a bit too fast, hahahha. glad to see you are still able to type stuff if you wrecked at 110mph.
Old 06-15-2005 | 10:23 PM
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got the whole emanage (injector and ignition harness) and the e-01 programmer. took roughly 6 hours but i didn't go cheeasy on it. all soldered connections with self vulcanizing rubber wrapped around all. can't believe that some have done this install with the harness still under the passenger side dash!!! much easier to pull the whole harness up and work on it outside the car over the fender. in the pics below you can see how i mounted the emanage and e-01 main units. tight fit bit it still gives easy tuning access with a simple panel removal. tomorrow finally get to start on the fuel system and fuel rail mods to make the return system.
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Old 06-16-2005 | 04:13 PM
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Geez Scott,
I thought MY project took a long time. Didn't you PM me three weeks ago saying you wanted to head to PIR for a grudge-race? My car was in the shopfrom April 11th to June 13th. I had to import my main bearings and pay for airfreight. You'll have it together by this weekend, right?

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Old 06-16-2005 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by brucekgt
Geez Scott,
I thought MY project took a long time. Didn't you PM me three weeks ago saying you wanted to head to PIR for a grudge-race? My car was in the shopfrom April 11th to June 13th. I had to import my main bearings and pay for airfreight. You'll have it together by this weekend, right?

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hahaha, actually i only have about 5 days into it so far. i took some time to play and had a quick job to do and spent almost 2 weeks painting and redoing my quad. mostly all mechanical stuff left and just bolting things together with out much fabrication now. even though i suspect it to take a full day to port the heads and intake which i will jump on tomorrow. this weekend the indy cars and drift cars are in town so p.i.r. won't be open for public racing. but getting the last parts i need tues of next week (arp did not give me 16 main studs but only 10!!) then i will be working on it night and day till finished. so maybe the next weekend, if it is running decent a race may be in order!! lol
Old 06-16-2005 | 05:06 PM
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today was setting up the return fuel system. all that i am doing is welding some steel 3/8 mip fittings to the ends of the stock fuel rails and drilled out the restrictions that were in the fuel rails. also using an inline walbro 255 pump instead of intank so i do not need to worry about messing with the syphon effect or block off the stock fpr as the stock pump will be running at near free flow to help supply the inline pump so the stock fpr should always be open. the bulkhead for the return line is just simple fittings i had around the shop. the factory fuel feed outlet will accept a 5/16 line on it with hose clamps, and just needed to upsize it to 3/8 sometime before the inline pump. power to the inline pump will come from the power line of the stock pump but will run through a relay as wiring both on the factory fuel pump wires will burn the wires up. the walbro uses alot more power. the delivery and return lines are now run into the engine compartment awaiting the motor to be back in to finish routing all the lines (in the trans tunnel not by the exhaust) for final installation.
i get a kick out of fab-ing as much stuff as i can (plus saving a few bucks). it should give all the fuel delivery i could ever need (at 700hp crank) and didn't cost a fraction of some return fuel setups out there. all it needs to do is flow and hold fuel really. but it ain't running yet, hahah.
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Old 06-17-2005 | 06:58 AM
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Scott-
Keep up the good work. I'm only 135 miles into my break-in and I'm just limping it around, taking it easy. Can't wait to see it when you get it finished. Let me know if you need moral support (or somebody to hand you cold beer) :-)

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ok, after many many hours with a die grinder and carbide bits the heads, intake, and exhaust manifolds are almost done. at first glance it appears not much could be done easily to these heads to flow more. but after looking closely at the air flow through the manifold and how the heads see it, it becomes much more apparent. plus having the air and fuel charge forced in and not relying on just vacuum to pull in the charge makes it easier and more forgiving. there is a few little bottlenecks where alot of material can be removed and narrowing of the valve dividers in the intake and exhaust pockets. i think my heads are a few pounds lighter now, lol. not much you can do at all in the valve pocket area though. flow is kind of a weird thing when talking about motors though as you only can have flow for a breif moment then as the valve shuts that velocity hits a brick wall and circles. so just creating a larger area very close to the valve pocket (especially with forced induction as intake flow will start immediately on valve opening)
i was even a little disappointed at the greddy manifold inlets and had to do some massaging on those as the match was pretty bad. there is a pic of how far the stock exhaust gaskets had to get relieved so they would not get in the way. the intake side though i did not hardly touch the opening size but removed the bottle neck right behind it and opened up the far sides of the runner. only very minor unshrouding of the intake valves was needed in the combustion chamber.
the upper intake only had one spot i saw and it was right behind the throttle body. a little bottle neck there and finely polished the turn. the lower- upper manifold got hogged out but mostly just to port match to the lower manifold which got a bit of material taken out. i did not change any characteristics of the runners just mostly removed material from everything in equal amounts. the attached pics are still in semi rough form but, you can get the idea.
my machine shop is taking their time to get to my motor, but i hope i got my point across today, GIT'ER DONE!!! hoping to start reassembly by weds or thurs.
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Old 06-27-2005 | 07:53 PM
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after finally riding my machine shop was able to pick up my block and balanced assembly. but unfortunately when i opened the box for my apr main studs there were only 10 in the box!!! with 10 washers and 10 nuts! it was obviously someone at arp who didn't know how to count!!! waiting to recieve the new ones from arp. will be a few days or maybe end of week before i get it. been busy though, bought a new truck and lifted it put lockers in it new canopy and lumber rack, so finally i have nothing else to do but to finish this Z project. it has been going for awhile now but i really havn't put much time into it, maybe 8 full days so far. it will basically be nothing but just bolting stuff back together now after recieving the new studs.
Old 06-27-2005 | 08:11 PM
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[QUOTE=overZealous1]after finally riding my machine shop was able to pick up my block and balanced assembly. but unfortunately when i opened the box for my apr main studs there were only 10 in the box!!! with 10 washers and 10 nuts! it was obviously someone at arp who didn't know how to count!!! waiting to recieve the new ones from arp. [QUOTE]

Same thing happened to me.....but I got 6 of each.
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[QUOTE=g356gear][QUOTE=overZealous1]after finally riding my machine shop was able to pick up my block and balanced assembly. but unfortunately when i opened the box for my apr main studs there were only 10 in the box!!! with 10 washers and 10 nuts! it was obviously someone at arp who didn't know how to count!!! waiting to recieve the new ones from arp.

Same thing happened to me.....but I got 6 of each.
sounds like you got my other six, or i got your 10!! lol i talked to arp and they now said they never recieved my returned box i sent them and made me jump through a bunch of hoops to prove i sent it. so now i loose all the time to ship it there and wait for a full box back and they delay it more by not being organized in their shipping department also. arp said repeatedly that all the problems have been taken care of and it won't happen again. not that i like to see people loose their jobs, but dam, pretty simple to just count to 16 and put it in a box. and for you to get only 6, wtf only uses 6 main studs? thats a common sense thing there.
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ok anyone following my posts here has prolly figured out i am taking my frigging time on this thing. oh well, have had a ton of other stuff to do.
but here is some funny s.h i..t., finally got my new main studs from arp on tuesday this week and started putting stuff together today. well there was 16 main bolts in the box so i was happy. and when i found out the problem before i counted my head studs to make sure that count was correct, which it was. well i went to install all the studs today and the last @&$^%@ing HEAD STUD I GRABBED HAD NO THREADS ON ONE END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! W T>> F IS UP WITH ARP!!!!!!!! EVERYONE SHOULD COVER THEIR EARS WHEN I CALL THEM TOMORROW MORNING!!!! THEY EVEN LOST MY UNDERCOUNT MAIN STUDS AND MADE ME PROVE I SENT IT TO THEM WHEN SOME DILL ROD EVEN SIGNED FOR THEM AND I TOLD 2 PEOPLE WHAT DAY THEY WOULD COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! unfortunately they are the only choice for getting bolts for this motor, if not i would post multiple times to pass up on their effed up service.
little off topic but to show my frustration the last week in morons giving me the wrong or faulty parts, i got a locker to install into the back of my 4x4 chevy. it lasted 250 miles before grinding the teeth off leaving me stranded 200 miles from home with a enclosed trailer and 2 quads. i pull the rear driveline and drive in four high on just the front axle, and made it about 50 miles before smoking my front cv. now only 150 miles from my shop i had to have the truck and trailer towed to my shop ($3.50 mile for truck $40 hook fee, $2.50 mile trailer w/ $40 hook fee) plus not only is my rearend messed up but now the front!!! ok they gave me the money back on the locker but not the towing and come to figure out they gave me the locker for the FRONT not the rear!!!! ok, i'm getting pissed again!!
next i buy a new ignition for my quad and the sob makes it for one ride before giving up and wasting 2 days to figure out what the prob was, because why the hell would i need to check a brand new ignition, right.
i must say, i can't wait for this to end, but i will cool down by tomorrow and be back at it again, with more pics of the install.
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Scott-
You are definitely on a roll! Since all the bad sh*t is behind you, it might be a good time to buy a lottery ticket...... Better yet, several of us are going to meet Sunday afternoon, 7/10, at Stanfords(Kruse Way and I-5). I'll buy you a consolation beverage! Let me know if that works. We're thinking 2 pm.

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[QUOTE=brucekgt]Scott-
You are definitely on a roll! Since all the bad sh*t is behind you, it might be a good time to buy a lottery ticket...... Better yet, several of us are going to meet Sunday afternoon, 7/10, at Stanfords(Kruse Way and I-5). I'll buy you a consolation beverage! Let me know if that works. We're thinking 2 pm.

Bruce[/QUOTE
hey bruce, ya i could use a good drink. ya won't believe what i ran into yesterday! putting my main caps on i went to screw on the last nut, AND THE @##^%@@%ING THING DIDN'T HAVE THREADSSSSSSS AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH OK SO NOW THAT WAS FROM MY SECOND SET OF MAIN STUDS FROM ARP AND THEY WERE STILL NOT A COMPLETE KIT!!!! i tried to hold back as i was talking to arp as i know he didn't personally package them but i think now i will finally have a full set of bolts for the motor come monday. not sure if it is time for a lottery ticket quite yet though. but i did clean out the table at a local casino the other night playing poker
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well got my last bolt and nut from arp today. atleast they did an over night for me.
motor is going together perfectly with all tolerances coming in right at the factory minimums. so all the fretting on main and rod bearings is finally put to rest. even the nismo cams are basically a drop in with only a couple shims being .001 to thick. i think i will be fine though. i had to print out roughly 60 pages from the 350z shop manuals just for assembling the motor alone. and using every dam page of it too!!! but i am taking my time and making sure every last spinning or moving part is right in spec cause i don't want to have this thing added to my already expensive exploded parts trophy wall.
more pics tomorrow as i left my cam at the shop today. btw- i see alot of people have been viewing my posts here, but not alot of feedback. there is a very good stickied post giving basically a very good text record of parts and things needed to do the built motors, but i am trying to give a little more indepth info with pics and possible real time problems that someone might run into during their motor build and swap. just trying to help other forum members who want to go f/i but not sure what they will run into or don't want to pay for all the work as it would get super spendy just in labor alone! any questions feel free to ask as my knowledge is getting vast in the vq35, lol.
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I had these kinds of frustrating things happen with my old Bimmer but I persevered. After 4 months of wrenching and $6k, I finally got it finished and put together right.

It caught fire on the test drive.

Good luck, and remember to keep a fire extinguisher in the car.
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I had these kinds of frustrating things happen with my old Bimmer but I persevered. After 4 months of wrenching and $6k, I finally got it finished and put together right.

It caught fire on the test drive.

Good luck, and remember to keep a fire extinguisher in the car.
i unfortunately have already had the experience of the car-b-q. i always keep an extinguisher in every car and 2 in my work truck and shop. nothing worse than to see all your hard work and money go up in flames. luckily i had an extinguisher when my vette lit up from a weird chain of events that led to a ruptured fuel line that would have taken the car if i didn't have it. got it out very quickly with only a few burned wire harnesses.
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finally got the motor together. luckily i have the shop manuals to refer to or i would have had some troubles. other than that just alot of rechecking to make sure nothing is skipped.
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i decided to wrap the exhaust and turbos with header wrap instead of the ceramic coating. reason? because it works a hellova lot better at reducing heat and costs just a fraction, about $50 in wrap. also pictured is a set of solid motor mounts i made so i won't have to worry about tearing up the stock ones. i like the predictability of solid mounts too. was short on help today but engine is ready to drop in and will get done tomorrow!!
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well the thing is finally in. most of the tubing for the turbos is hooked up now and with many cuts all over my hands, i didn't realize you had to be david copperfield to make some of this stuff fit and then try to fasten it down with micro-wrenching. someone at greddy was laughing their a. s .s off at me yesterday!!! oh well almost done.
also is a pic of the fuel system mostly installed. seems the injectors are a little tall (660's) so i will need to take a little material off the bottom of the manifold to get the clearance i need around the fuel rails.
hoping to do the initial start today, but we will see!
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IT RUNS!!!!!!!! it seems i know what i am doing now, hahahah. first shot at the key and it fired up. not running quite right yet, but hell taking a 290hp motor and comp and turning it into this the pure fact it is running is good for me right now!!. my neighbors started to ***** so i had to cut the tuning off but will be back at it tomorrow with the intent to hit the town tomorrow night with some painted ladies, hahaha. finally almost done.
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