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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GQ 350z
Also--would it be best to get an exhuast with a y pipe? I sold my Injen exhaust so before I buy a new one, which y pipe/exhuast combo would you guys recommend as far as hp and compliance with fit.

Thanks, I've learned a lot from this thread.
I'm not sure if there's a 'best' exhaust for the application. You'd probably want one that has as close to 3" piping as possible. Otherwise, it's a matter of personal taste as far as sound goes.

I think my Fujitsubo Legalis-R sounds great with the kit. Perfect exhaust note for my liking (low rumble at idle, growl at wot). The single downpipe the kit provides made it a little louder (and better-sounding) than with my high flow cats.

You can also go with a true dual exhaust, but you will need to fab a reverse y-pipe to hook it up to the kit's downpipe.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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There are several y pipe back exhausts that will work. Mine is the Apexi WSII exhaust. Piping is just under 3"
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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What about the model year? Does it matter that mine is 04.5 as far as the reflash goes? Also, you mentioned that you have the WS2. Does that include the y pipe? if not which one would you recommend.

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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GQ 350z
What about the model year? Does it matter that mine is 04.5 as far as the reflash goes? Also, you mentioned that you have the WS2. Does that include the y pipe? if not which one would you recommend.

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This kit actually replaces the cats and y pipe so you dont need either. The WS2 is a y pipe back echaust and does not include one. For the flash the 04.5 should be set. The 05 is the only one currently not supported.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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Damn thats sick, so there is a bit of cost savings from that standpoint. Do you know anyone that has already installed on 04.5?
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GQ 350z
Damn thats sick, so there is a bit of cost savings from that standpoint. Do you know anyone that has already installed on 04.5?
Mine is a late model 04 in terms of ECU. So yeah I guess..me....
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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so how reliable is the turbonetics st kit... i really want one but my nightmare is having a blown motor...id run stock boost at all time.. whats more reliable
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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i'm from CA and regarding the emission issues, if i go with Turbonetics, so most likely it will not pass emission? What can you do to make it pass? put back the stock cat?
Turbonetics has a cat-version coming out.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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tauran and MIAPLAYA. thanks so much for your patients with newbie like us.

back to fuel return system and CAS wires, is it a must? will it gain more hp if i have this?
I don't think a fuel system is needed until ~420rwhp.

And i'm going to take Charles' word for it that the CAS wire is not needed.
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phewww...that sound better.

Now, if i want to add NOS later, will it be a problem for Turbonetics ST kit? Have anyone do this combination yet?
I'd suggest WI and/or NX ntercooler kit.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GQ 350z
Also--would it be best to get an exhuast with a y pipe? I sold my Injen exhaust so before I buy a new one, which y pipe/exhuast combo would you guys recommend as far as hp and compliance with fit.

Thanks, I've learned a lot from this thread.
Anything y-pipe back would work. IMO, 2.75"+ would be optimum.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xjerseyzfinestx
so how reliable is the turbonetics st kit... i really want one but my nightmare is having a blown motor...id run stock boost at all time.. whats more reliable
No blown motors yet and I don't think you will see any either as long as the owner is using the reflashed ECU that Turbonetics reflashed for them.

Frankly, most of these blown motors, as long as they are under ~9psi on any (turbo) kit, are due to the owner's error or mechanic/tuner error. You're chances of blowing your motor are actually very slim if you do some safety mods and don't go over ~9psi.
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 02:00 AM
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that mean i have to take out my ECU and send to Turbonetic to reflash? or they are included?
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 02:21 AM
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Yeah, you have to remove your ECU (Technosquare has instructions on their website) and send it to Turbonetics, shipping is included as is the reflash price. I believe it's a 3 day (at the most, really depends on what time it gets shipped and what day it is) turn around time. And i'm sure the installer will recommend sending it before they even get started on the install. (but the car is at the shop)
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nis350ztt
I don't think a fuel system is needed until ~420rwhp.

And i'm going to take Charles' word for it that the CAS wire is not needed.

Charles said no CAS wire needed? My understanding was that the CAS issue was generic and COULD POSSIBLY effect any car (especially FI). I personally dont think its the big issue it was made to be earlier but it seems like its cheap enough to do (and rule out that issue).
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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Charles said no CAS wire needed? My understanding was that the CAS issue was generic and COULD POSSIBLY effect any car (especially FI). I personally dont think its the big issue it was made to be earlier but it seems like its cheap enough to do (and rule out that issue).
I'm running a CAS wire just because I was able to grab one in the group buy. It is NOT needed, and there is really no hard documentation that it has been at fault for problems with other kits. I'm just running it for that added peace of mind. Once again, it is not required in any way.

But, if you want to grab one on the side and install it, then by all means do.
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 35ounces
Charles said no CAS wire needed? My understanding was that the CAS issue was generic and COULD POSSIBLY effect any car (especially FI). I personally dont think its the big issue it was made to be earlier but it seems like its cheap enough to do (and rule out that issue).
That's what I thought. However, if Charles makes the damn things, and tries to tell you that you don't need them before you buy one from him, i'm going to say that's a sign that they really aren't needed. (and it's not like it's some small/cheap part that he just doesn't really care if he sells or not, he sold quite a bit in the GB and is still selling them)

(I assumed it was ok with Charles that I told you this, he told me that the CAS wire is not needed in I.M., he told me he tells people they don't need it, don't buy it before they'll buy one from him, and that he is not running a CAS wire on his 575rwhp 350Z)


And, you may want to consider the source the CAS wire came from. If APS' 350Z was made before something like Feb. '03 and had the CAS TSB, then I could see how they observed scattered ignition timing. Maybe, they figured it was a problem on all 350Z's, and they had already set an MSRP on their kit and figured it was beneficial to what they were shooting for with the kit (no blown motors, a Feb. '03 350Z with no CAS wire with APS TT blowing a motor wasn't something they wanted to hear and I doubt they wanted to go through the trouble of checking other '03s, and after it was produced, '04s, and now '05s just for a ~$20 part).

(the above paragraph is all hypothetical, I cannot prove it, though it sounds like a reasonable thing to me)
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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The 03's that were recalled for CAS issues were for the sensor itself. I'm not sure if the dealer replaces the actual wire when it is repaired, but I doubt it.

The tuner that installed my kit says he has witnessed scattered timing on a greddy tt setup, but I'm not sure if it was from the wire or the emanage. He seemed to think that the CAS wire was a great idea, though.
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
The tuner that installed my kit says he has witnessed scattered timing on a greddy tt setup, but I'm not sure if it was from the wire or the emanage. He seemed to think that the CAS wire was a great idea, though.
Kinda off topic but I was speaking to someone that told me that greddy has an new emanage 2 coming out. He said the problem with the regular emanage is resolution is not that great.....what ever that means?
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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Probably the resolution on the maps you tune with. I believe GReddy is releasing a new E-Manage for the USA soon per a website I had seen, he had a picture of it from a magazine. Let me try to find that thing again, I was trying to find the name of parts (E-Manage accessories) I would need to give to Sharif when I get the GReddy kit.

taurran, didn't know that. Oh well, hypothetical situation anyway.


Here it is:
http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/tmp...age/index.html

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