Question about Stillen S/C
Wow, those 1/4 times seem a lot slower than I would expect with the S/C kits. I would have expected high 12's.... hmm. Were the kits tuned? The detonation sounds like it would be resolved with some dyno runs and tuning.
I ran a 12.8 on a cool day in upstate NY. However that was one run. Other than that I have been pretty consistently in the very low 13's (13.3 to 13.0).
On the other hand I did race a vortech with a 9 pound pulley that dynoed at 400hp. I killed him from a stop and he walked me from a roll.
On the other hand I did race a vortech with a 9 pound pulley that dynoed at 400hp. I killed him from a stop and he walked me from a roll.
anyone have pics of your cars?? The hood looks a little nasty on the car..but hey its the price you pay for a great kit. I want one..Is the stage one anygood? Its all I can afford now.
i seem to have the most pics out there
www.jdj27x.com/SC
www.jdj27x.com/Stillen
www.jdj27x.com/ts
My favorite picture
www.jdj27x.com/SC
www.jdj27x.com/Stillen
www.jdj27x.com/ts
My favorite picture
Originally Posted by solidsnake
anyone have pics of your cars?? The hood looks a little nasty on the car..but hey its the price you pay for a great kit. I want one..Is the stage one anygood? Its all I can afford now.
I had the Stage 2 installed about 4 months ago (350z not G35) and am already planning on upgrading to Stage 3. Everyone has their own opinion, but my advice would be to wait a while and go Stage 2 or 3 instead.
The lines aren't necessarily consistant with the rest of the car, its a little bold and angular, but I don't see where the complaints come from. The hood looks good to me.
Originally Posted by g35twinturbo
i seem to have the most pics out there
www.jdj27x.com/SC
www.jdj27x.com/Stillen
www.jdj27x.com/ts
My favorite picture

www.jdj27x.com/SC
www.jdj27x.com/Stillen
www.jdj27x.com/ts
My favorite picture

I gotta ask. How much was it total for stage 2 and hood NOT including install since Ill do myself. Any emanage needed like the graddy kit. Or is it a bolt on kit right out of the box? Any chance one of you guys selling your kits?
Originally Posted by solidsnake
I gotta ask. How much was it total for stage 2 and hood NOT including install since Ill do myself. Any emanage needed like the graddy kit. Or is it a bolt on kit right out of the box? Any chance one of you guys selling your kits?
This is what I actually paid for mine w/o the labor. Obviously tax will just depend on where you are and amount for painting will depend on who you take it to. I had the SC installed at a shop, so i'm not able to speak directly as to how difficult the install is, but from what the guys at the shop told me, the kit is completely bolt on and is not difficult to put in. No emanage necessary for the Stillen.
supercharger/hood-$5200
tax-$450
shipping-$200(for both)
paint hood-$400
thats not bad numbers, but the vortech is much less and from what I heard, just as easy to install. I was looking at the new post someone added and he got 422 and the wheels. DAMN!! Thats some good numbers. Anyways I know that stillen is better considering the warranty, but then again it costs more in the long run. Any pro's and cons of the vortech kit? Im leaning more towards that now.
Originally Posted by solidsnake
thats not bad numbers, but the vortech is much less and from what I heard, just as easy to install. I was looking at the new post someone added and he got 422 and the wheels. DAMN!! Thats some good numbers. Anyways I know that stillen is better considering the warranty, but then again it costs more in the long run. Any pro's and cons of the vortech kit? Im leaning more towards that now.
I have ridden in a Vortech SC car pushing 400rwhp and I recently installed a Stillen Stage 2 on mine. The vortech was no doubt faster, but it was running more boost than the Stillen. Also, the vortech did not feel so powerful until after ~4000 RPMS, then it took off. The Stillen feels powerful down low and sustains it to redline but power does not grow like the vortech.
What I like about the Stillen is that normal cruising and cruising on the highway you can not hear the stillen at all and it sounds just like stock. Its Smog legal as well. I am currently upgrading the Valve Body and have the stage 3 pulley on order. Its almost enough power to keep me satisfied at this point at stage 2. Hopefully stage 3 will put a smile on my face.
What I like about the Stillen is that normal cruising and cruising on the highway you can not hear the stillen at all and it sounds just like stock. Its Smog legal as well. I am currently upgrading the Valve Body and have the stage 3 pulley on order. Its almost enough power to keep me satisfied at this point at stage 2. Hopefully stage 3 will put a smile on my face.
John - The Stillen IS a roots blower while the Vortech is a centrifugal blower ( basically a cousin to a turbo except driven by a belt instead of exhaust gases ).
I finally decided on the Vortech over the Stillen because its' software is more tunable ( when I decide to increase the boost ) & also the Stillen doesn't work well with headers & test pipes ( although I understand that they're working that issue right now ).
I had no problems with the hood & both kits have a history of not blowing engines.
Wes - the dyno in question was run @ almost 9# of boost & had a torque peak ( actually fairly flat from 3800 to 6k rpms ) of 340 ft-lbs. John Isbell is installing my Vortech next month & has some tricks he wants to try in order to lower the usable powerband down near where the Stillen roots S/C reigns. I don't expect to get the tire shredding torque of the Stillen but getting the powerband down to close to 3k would work well with my 3k rpm T/C.
I finally decided on the Vortech over the Stillen because its' software is more tunable ( when I decide to increase the boost ) & also the Stillen doesn't work well with headers & test pipes ( although I understand that they're working that issue right now ).
I had no problems with the hood & both kits have a history of not blowing engines. Wes - the dyno in question was run @ almost 9# of boost & had a torque peak ( actually fairly flat from 3800 to 6k rpms ) of 340 ft-lbs. John Isbell is installing my Vortech next month & has some tricks he wants to try in order to lower the usable powerband down near where the Stillen roots S/C reigns. I don't expect to get the tire shredding torque of the Stillen but getting the powerband down to close to 3k would work well with my 3k rpm T/C.
Last edited by Mean Gene; Aug 2, 2005 at 04:03 PM. Reason: Add info
Here is a pic of mine.
I have installed both a Stillen and a Vortech, both are straight forward. Tonite, I drove LeMans350z's 422 hp vortech (the one I installed) and this is my comparison. Although he has 80 hp on me, the way the power comes on is totally different. The stillen is like an 'instant-on' boost, and stays level, or perhaps drops off a little bit towards redline. The vortech doesn't give you the low end kick, but you can definitely tell that power is building all the way to redline. I had driven his car before, but not since its tune and not really back to back with mine. Overall, I have to say I like the feel of the stillen better, just because of the low-end kick, and not because its the one that I have.
I have installed both a Stillen and a Vortech, both are straight forward. Tonite, I drove LeMans350z's 422 hp vortech (the one I installed) and this is my comparison. Although he has 80 hp on me, the way the power comes on is totally different. The stillen is like an 'instant-on' boost, and stays level, or perhaps drops off a little bit towards redline. The vortech doesn't give you the low end kick, but you can definitely tell that power is building all the way to redline. I had driven his car before, but not since its tune and not really back to back with mine. Overall, I have to say I like the feel of the stillen better, just because of the low-end kick, and not because its the one that I have.
Originally Posted by Mean Gene
John - The Stillen IS a roots blower while the Vortech is a centrifugal blower ( basically a cousin to a turbo except driven by a belt instead of exhaust gases ).
I finally decided on the Vortech over the Stillen because its' software is more tunable ( when I decide to increase the boost ) & also the Stillen doesn't work well with headers & test pipes ( although I understand that they're working that issue right now ).
I had no problems with the hood & both kits have a history of not blowing engines.
Wes - the dyno in question was run @ almost 9# of boost & had a torque peak ( actually fairly flat from 3800 to 6k rpms ) of 340 ft-lbs. John Isbell is installing my Vortech next month & has some tricks he wants to try in order to lower the usable powerband down near where the Stillen roots S/C reigns. I don't expect to get the tire shredding torque of the Stillen but getting the powerband down to close to 3k would work well with my 3k rpm T/C.
I finally decided on the Vortech over the Stillen because its' software is more tunable ( when I decide to increase the boost ) & also the Stillen doesn't work well with headers & test pipes ( although I understand that they're working that issue right now ).
I had no problems with the hood & both kits have a history of not blowing engines. Wes - the dyno in question was run @ almost 9# of boost & had a torque peak ( actually fairly flat from 3800 to 6k rpms ) of 340 ft-lbs. John Isbell is installing my Vortech next month & has some tricks he wants to try in order to lower the usable powerband down near where the Stillen roots S/C reigns. I don't expect to get the tire shredding torque of the Stillen but getting the powerband down to close to 3k would work well with my 3k rpm T/C.
Sorry, I just kinda gave up on SC's.So maybe I exagerated a bit.
Sold my SC,building my motor, & bought TT's.Now I'm just waiting.
I think the n2o is needed either way. When it's all together I want to try the NX maximizer along with my Zex like you do. How is that(NX maximizer) working?
The stage three is a big difference.
Sold my SC,building my motor, & bought TT's.Now I'm just waiting.
I think the n2o is needed either way. When it's all together I want to try the NX maximizer along with my Zex like you do. How is that(NX maximizer) working?
The stage three is a big difference.
Last edited by weslutes; Aug 2, 2005 at 08:04 PM.
Originally Posted by solidsnake
thats not bad numbers, but the vortech is much less and from what I heard, just as easy to install. I was looking at the new post someone added and he got 422 and the wheels. DAMN!! Thats some good numbers.
Originally Posted by 2003z
Here is a pic of mine.
I have installed both a Stillen and a Vortech, both are straight forward. Tonite, I drove LeMans350z's 422 hp vortech (the one I installed) and this is my comparison. Although he has 80 hp on me, the way the power comes on is totally different. The stillen is like an 'instant-on' boost, and stays level, or perhaps drops off a little bit towards redline. The vortech doesn't give you the low end kick, but you can definitely tell that power is building all the way to redline. I had driven his car before, but not since its tune and not really back to back with mine. Overall, I have to say I like the feel of the stillen better, just because of the low-end kick, and not because its the one that I have.
I have installed both a Stillen and a Vortech, both are straight forward. Tonite, I drove LeMans350z's 422 hp vortech (the one I installed) and this is my comparison. Although he has 80 hp on me, the way the power comes on is totally different. The stillen is like an 'instant-on' boost, and stays level, or perhaps drops off a little bit towards redline. The vortech doesn't give you the low end kick, but you can definitely tell that power is building all the way to redline. I had driven his car before, but not since its tune and not really back to back with mine. Overall, I have to say I like the feel of the stillen better, just because of the low-end kick, and not because its the one that I have.


