weslutes

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Yeah, XS is a rip. They do have a good rep for tuning though.
I could use a few extra bucks. Come over to my pad & I'll install it.

taurran

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I wouldn't put my money on the APS TT getting CARB legal any time soon. I'll believe it when I see it....

mrtomcat

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They already passed all the tests at the Ford Centers a few months ago, it's only paperwork now. Next to JWT they are the closest to actually getting it done.

MIAPLAYA

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Well the kit may have passed the emissions portion but there is a LOT more to CARB then the sniffer. For one you must retain the factory injectors in the facotry location so that needs a redesign. Furthermore you must be able to provide CARB any alterations the kit makes to long term and short term fuel trims. They need to see precise mapping of the motor under load, factory cats in facotry location, etc ,etc...The list goes on. If it was that quick don't you think JWT would have their cert by now. JWT engineered their kits specifically to pass CARB and they STILL don't have the cert.

jdx911

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Can you point us to this CARB specification?

Also, that is not much of a redesign since I am assuming the use of secondary injectors are legal.

MIAPLAYA

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Trying to find the stuff on CARBs webpage is a nightmare. I'll talk to a friend and see if he can get Jim Wolf to give us the section its in. This is all what was told to me by Jim Wolf.

mrtomcat

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They passed the sniffer test from day one, the tests I was referring to were done using the stock injectors and so forth. From what David told us about 2 months ago they were ready to hand over a ready to go car to the carb people since I guess that's part of the process
Bottomline is they are the furthest advanced besides JWT on that goal...and a single Turbo will never pass CARB on a Z because the cat can not be relocated...

here's the link to the CARB site:
http://www.arb.ca.gov/homepage.htm

MIAPLAYA

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Well the single turbo thing is not exactly news....What i'm trying to say is that just passing all the tests doesn't make the cert process any faster. JWT passed all that stuff over a year ago. They have been waiting for CARB to cert them since. Its not as easy as passing all the tests.

mrtomcat

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I know, I agree but that's what I said it's the paperwork stuff...

CARB sucks...I think we can agree on that

MIAPLAYA

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Oh I can more then agree with you on that....Still waiting for the Governator to close that muti-million dollar waste of a budget...

jdx911

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I found a submission form but no guidelines. I sent over an email to one of the ARB reps and hopefully they can point us in the right direction.

Here is the link to the forms:

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/topforms.htm

It is Form C.

mrtomcat

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Victory!!!

Now say: APS is better than Turbonetics....

MIAPLAYA

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Now THAT is never going to happen....

Z BOY

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omfg, roflmao. best post of the day.

mrtomcat

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LOL

I had to try

Z BOY

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me think the lady doth protest too much.

Ant830

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OK, back on topic.....i've been thinking all day at school what I should do...1.I don't want my engine to 'possibly' blow up kuz it's a daily driver and I will gettin on it hard from time to time...2. I wan't to minimize the cost as much as i can...
So if i get the TT kit, the bov, the fuel pump, boost controller, gauges.....will I ONLY need RODS and PISTONS to be safe at 5-8 psi? or is there more to it than just rods and pistons? like gaskets and studs n such?

jdx911

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I used "going deep"'s write up as my starting template. That can be found here:

https://my350z.com/forum/fi-faq-s/112693-how-to-do-twins-right-the-first-time.html

mrtomcat

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In all honesty the APS TT has the best track record and so does Brainstorm for installs in terms of reliable daily driver at 8.5 psi and lots of power at the track. There has not been one single blown engine since it's release about a year ago.

You can not go wrong with that setup and there's no need to get a build engine unless you want to go way up there.

I've had my kit for just over two months now drive at least 100 miles per day and race it at the track at least once a week.
I dynoed at 445 horses and am holding the southern cali Z track record right now (12.25 at cali speedway and 7.778 at Irwindale)
and it performs fantastic every single time
Call Chris at Brainstorm if you want to check out their shop and some APS tt's on different cars. They are out around Culver City, it's a great shop