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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by aaronlosey
12-14 psi is safe on the stock vq? i thought that seems high. i was just planning on runing around 380whp so far, as my last rb25 drift car was right around there on low boost. with the improved displacement and off boost power, i think 380whp out of the vq will be worlds better. who is a trusted vendor i could get the tuner kit from for that price, with a web address link if you don't mind, along with the fuel return system. does the fuel return system require running lots of lines? are the lines pre made or am i going to sit there with a little tiny bender and flare tool lol.

if the kit is safe up to mid 400whp, i'll run the damn thing there. the hp has a nice linear pedal with which i can deliver it with, so as long as the hp is reliable, you can never have too much. ( too much is when the hp level requires too many comprimises such as weight, laggy spool, shitty throttle response, breaking parts, ect )


THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST INTERNET RESPONSE I'VE EVER GOTTEN TO PARTS, SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO IS POSTING HERE. THANKS!!!!






oh, and i already have the nismo diff, that was the very first mod to the car. other than that, i kept the car stock until recently when i got tierods. i only purchased the 350 because my drift car for last season was a piece of junk super charged m3 that fell apart all the time. it held back the learning process terribly and was a huge waste of time.
Yes 12-14 PSI has been run on a stock motor countless times with different kits. As long as the tune is good the pressure can be run that high. For 380 you would need to set the boost at 8-9 PSI. As for the fuel return system it is all pre-made and fitted. It is quite possible the nicest system I've seen for any car aftermarket wise. New fuel rails and hard steel return line, all lines and fittings attached professionally, etc. The kit is safe for more then 400 is you get the bigger injectors and tune it. Speed Dreams has pushed the base kit to 440-460 at 14 PSI on the stock motor with no other management other then flash. I however would opt for my suggestion as drifting is different then every day driving and you cannot have ANY hiccups in the tune when sideways at WOT. As for a trusted vendor check out Sharif at www.forgedinternals.com He can set you up with at least 90% of the parts I listed if not all of them. That includes the tuner kit. phunk the user who posted above actually makes the fuel return system and can either sell it to you or answer any questions you have on it. Hope that helps.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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Heres a link to the fuel system: http://www.cj-motorsports.com/prod350fuel.htm
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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i'm starting to feel like i should just toss in a built motor as well as the price shoots up, just like any stupid turbo project. i would be pretty happy if this motor would hold together until next season, then i would toss in a built motor. i suppose i will call the forged internals place monday. thanks again.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronlosey
i'm starting to feel like i should just toss in a built motor as well as the price shoots up, just like any stupid turbo project. i would be pretty happy if this motor would hold together until next season, then i would toss in a built motor. i suppose i will call the forged internals place monday. thanks again.
With the above mods you should have no problem keeping the motor together for this season. Then next season you could always order SGPs ultimate Long block and you would already have all the engine management and fuel system stuff for it and you can just keep raising the boost.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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sharif talked me back into the greddy kit. said it would create more low end torque, yada yada. so much personal choice lol. thats the way i'm leaning again. if i hate the turbos that much, i can swap different ones in after awhile, depending on the flanges on the manifolds. i haven't bothered to look at what they are yet. but that would be quite the waste of money to swap them out.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronlosey
sharif talked me back into the greddy kit. said it would create more low end torque, yada yada. so much personal choice lol. thats the way i'm leaning again. if i hate the turbos that much, i can swap different ones in after awhile, depending on the flanges on the manifolds. i haven't bothered to look at what they are yet. but that would be quite the waste of money to swap them out.
The Greddy comes with TD04-18G turbos if I recall. They are conventional sleeve bearing turbos which do flow a lot when turned up. However I would still lean towards one of the other kits myself. But hey its your dollars...

Edit: If weight really is a concern you would be purchasing one of the heavier kits on the market. Cast manifolds, twice the piping, huge intercooler, 18gs, etc. Not to mention you are still going to need to get a fuel pump, fuel return system, and something better then the emanage blue to tune it so its going to cost more.

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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YOU told me to talk to sharif, i'm just going on his recommendations here lol. i'm kinda on the fence about it. the weight of the turbos in the greddy kit will be low and towards the center of the car, where the turbonetics will be high and in the front. i'm still on the ropes.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronlosey
YOU told me to talk to sharif, i'm just going on his recommendations here lol. i'm kinda on the fence about it. the weight of the turbos in the greddy kit will be low and towards the center of the car, where the turbonetics will be high and in the front. i'm still on the ropes.
Hey I know I told you to talk to Sharif. I'm just giving you my opinion. Theres no need to get all crazy. What I meant was talk to Sharif about ordering the kit and other parts. If you want to get the Greddy kit, get the Greddy kit its your car and your dollars. I'm telling you my opinion on this. Others here have agreed with me as well. If you don't want to take mine and other peoples here advice thats fine in the end its your car. I told you what I thought would work from my point of view and others think so too so I must not be too far off. If Sharif doesn't want to sell you the Turbonetics kit (not likely) then there are other vendors here as well. Avalon Racing (www.avalonracing.net), Altered Atmosphere (http://www.alteredatmosphere.com/main.asp), Intense Motorsports (http://www.i-m-racing.com/), there are tons....take your pic. I refered you to Sharif because I have talked to him and he has great customer service skills which show on the boards.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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BTW the setup I recommended originally is quite possibly the most cost effective way to accomplish your goals. Going with the Turbonetics Tuner kit and the listed mods gives you the most bang for the buck you are going to get period. For the total cost you would spend on what I give you nothing much else can give you the performance you would get with the bullet proof reliability you would need.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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yawnnnnnnn i guess ill just order a turbonetics kit today... im kinda bored need something to get excited about
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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i think you missed my LOL. i think you read my post as a critisism towards you. i was joking. thanks for giving me your opinion.

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronlosey
i think you missed my LOL. i think you read my post as a critisism towards you. i was joking. thanks for giving me your opinion.

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honestly i am really in the market for the kit.. just waiting till tomarrow when my people get in the office so i dont go stupied spending money i dont need to when i get it for a great price anyway.


no critisism at all
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nissansource
honestly i am really in the market for the kit.. just waiting till tomarrow when my people get in the office so i dont go stupied spending money i dont need to when i get it for a great price anyway.


no critisism at all

I don't think he was talking to you
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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i was talking to mia lol
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by aaronlosey
i was talking to mia lol
I apologgize if I came off rude thats not what I intended. I guess what I meant to say was that Sharif is a great guy, vendor, and tuner. However based on what you stated as what you were looking for I feel the setup I listed what get you what you want, how you want it, and for the best price. By all means if there is a setup out there that you prefer over what I listed then get it. In the end as I said it is your car and your money. Like I said though there isn't really anything else that can get you that kind of power and bullet proof reliability for that price. Using a piggyback is never going to be as reliable or beneficial as a full stand alone. And the setup I listed includes that. I'm happy to help out and if there is anything else I can help out with please let me know. Again I apologize for coming off as rude.
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