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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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Just a quick update on this CARB EO issue for the APS twin turbo system. If things work out the APS TT emission testing should be done by middle of November. Hopefully we APS TT owners, and would be owners will have a definate answer of an CARB EO number (pass) by the end of November. Just some final bureaucratic paper work to do in the anticipated event that APS passes. All the engineering on this new APS twin turbo system is done, so now it's time to put it to the test in ths smog capital of the USA~ Los Angels!
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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Wow if this goes through the way it is suppose to...APS is going to make a killing in the 350Z market in Cali.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Oh Yeah Baby!
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 06:28 AM
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yep it sure is
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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funny, I jusy sent them a note as well 2 days ago.
Peter stated that they sending the new kit plus APS person to cali in 4 weeks in order to install the kit into a newly purchased Z to hand over to the CARB people.

Quesstion remains though, how much will existing aps owners need to re-invest into getting their kits CARB approved.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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I'm sure they will have more info for SEMA in less then a month. To bad CARB approval can take a few months. Would be nice if they would release this new version of the kit prior to CARB approval.

I'm assuming that the new kit will not have the upgraded fuel system and have different tuning. Converting could just mean going back to stock fuel system and retuning of the Uni-Chip.

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Originally Posted by Gary King
I'm sure they will have more info for SEMA in less then a month. To bad CARB approval can take a few months. Would be nice if they would release this new version of the kit prior to CARB approval.

I'm assuming that the new kit will not have the upgraded fuel system and have different tuning. Converting could just mean going back to stock fuel system and retuning of the Uni-Chip.
the purpose of the new kit is for CARB...this kit mostlikely will put out less power due to the requirements...

I think you might be referring to their tuner kit which has nothing to do with carb nor will it ever get carb'd
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat
the purpose of the new kit is for CARB...this kit mostlikely will put out less power due to the requirements...

I think you might be referring to their tuner kit which has nothing to do with carb nor will it ever get carb'd
Actually I am referring directly to the CARB kit. I've been told that upgrading fuel injectors is a big No No with CARB.

Example: Stillen and Vortech, CARB Approved, stock injectors. JWT, CARB Pending, stock injectors.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary King
Actually I am referring directly to the CARB kit. I've been told that upgrading fuel injectors is a big No No with CARB.

Example: Stillen and Vortech, CARB Approved, stock injectors. JWT, CARB Pending, stock injectors.
I have spoken to the ARB through email they said upgrading injectors, any part and all part of the fuel, intake and exhaust is fine provided you do not tamper with OEM emissions equipment, document exactly what was done and you pass CARB emission tests.

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/141160-straight-from-the-source-carb-aftermarket-guidelines.html
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Originally Posted by jdx911
I have spoken to the ARB through email they said upgrading injectors, any part and all part of the fuel, intake and exhaust is fine provided you do not tamper with OEM emissions equipment, document exactly what was done and you pass CARB emission tests.

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141160
The response from ARB makes it sound so easy. Yet when I have talked to Vortech, APS or Jim Wolf, the whole process of CARB approval sounds like a nightmare.

I just hope APS and Jim Wolf get their CARB approval soon.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Any updates? I'm ready to purchase the APS TT, just need the word about carb certification and its a done deal on my end.

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Originally Posted by GQ 350z
Any updates? I'm ready to purchase the APS TT, just need the word about carb certification and its a done deal on my end.

ravi
APS is sendnig some people out here to Cali in november to do the install on the CARB test car that then gets handed over to the CARB people.
If that all goes well my guess is they have their approval early next year
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Thanks for the reply. I'm still debating between single/twin and all the associated risks and costs.
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Originally Posted by GQ 350z
Thanks for the reply. I'm still debating between single/twin and all the associated risks and costs.
single will NEVER be CARB'd due to the relocation of the Cat, so that should not even be an option for you if you're looking for a CARB'ed system
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary King
Example: Stillen and Vortech, CARB Approved, stock injectors. JWT, CARB Pending, stock injectors.
Why do people insist on misleading others? ONLY THE STILLEN IS CARB LEGAL. Vortech is not.

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Originally Posted by USN HM 350Z
Why do people insist on misleading others? ONLY THE STILLEN IS CARB LEGAL. Vortech is not.
Um yes it is... http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...3-04_350Z.html
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Um nope, check for yourself...

http://www.arb.ca.gov


as you can see the CARB EO# D-213-22 does not exist in the ARB database..

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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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The government page probably hasn't been updated yet
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by USN HM 350Z
Um nope, check for yourself...

http://www. arb.ca.gov/msprog/afterm...es/amquery.php

remove the blanks


as you can see the CARB EO# D-213-22 does not exist in the ARB database..
Um in case you don't know...CARB takes freaking decades to update their databases. And if you look more closely...ALL of Vortechs EOs start with D-213 the last one in the database is D-213-21 For a Honda SC set up...I wonder what number would come after D-213-21...could it be D-213-22? I'm pretty sure Vortech wouldn't list the CARB number unless they had it already. Considering it wasn't there until a couple months ago.. oh and here is a post FROM Vortech on our boards announcing the EO: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....t=Vortech+CARB
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Oh just so you don't have to read through the thread heres a copy of the EO.

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/pdf/D-213-22.pdf
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