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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
with the remote switch you can program a valet mode...so no flogging

can't do this with an EU
Switch or no switch, nobody drives my car (other than the shop working on it). That's like saying, I'll flip a switch on my wife and let someone bang her, but she won't feel a thing.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
with the remote switch you can program a valet mode...so no flogging

can't do this with an EU
The GReddy eManage Ultimate does have a remote switching system available from GReddy.

I still prefer the TurboXS UTEC system over the EUltimate though. It looks very promising.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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also something to point out....anyone who can feel a switch between a stock ecu and utec mid run simply put does not have a well tuned UTEC. My most recent tune (with some of Jermaine's help), as a WRX, GT30, 800cc injectors, upgraded pump, front mount. The car starts, idles and drives as smoothly as a stock one does, and the car is a daily driver (to and from NYC from LI) for the owner.

Any EM solution - from a Megasquirt to a Pectel, and everything in between, is only as good as the person punching the keys. Same as any other computer. Now, I can have a Mac with the latest form of graphics software, but if I don't know how to use that software and apply it to the tast at hand, I cannot make animation look lifelike...but the people at Pixar can - see my point? If they know their way around the software (and I mean know it like you know your address), you can get any EM solution to work well regardless of the application its being applied to. The thing the UTEC has working for it is it is easy enough for a person who READS/FOLLOWS THE DIRECTIONS, and who has a basic understanding of what a fuel and timing map needs to generally look like, can tune the unit themself. On the flipside, there are many tuners out there who are proficient in the UTEC as well, should you rather pay someone else to do it.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
with the remote switch you can program a valet mode...so no flogging

can't do this with an EU
that is pretty cool tho
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
with the remote switch you can program a valet mode...so no flogging

can't do this with an EU
You can hookup a remote switch, and do the same thing with the EU.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
You can hookup a remote switch, and do the same thing with the EU.
How many maps can the Emanage hold?

Can you do Launch Control and Flat Shift?

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackTuner
How many maps can the Emanage hold?

Can you do Launch Control and Flat Shift?

Jermaine~
Sharif will have to elaborate, since he has personal tuning experience with this.

I believe it will hold two of each map.

I believe you can store as many as you want on your laptop and upload them to the EU, though, i'm sure you are already aware of this.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Brandon@Forged
Sharif will have to elaborate, since he has personal tuning experience with this.

I believe it will hold two of each map.

I believe you can store as many as you want on your laptop and upload them to the EU, though, i'm sure you are already aware of this.
From some quick research I see it has a 2 map capability.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Brandon@Forged
I believe you can store as many as you want on your laptop and upload them to the EU, though, i'm sure you are already aware of this.
The switch is nice, but not that big of deal. Like Brandon says you can just save the maps on your lap top and then upload them. I have a USB cable connected to the EU and it runs into the compartment where my navi cd would go if I had navi. It will only take me as long as it takes to boot up my lap top in order download another map. You can see the USB cable next to the boost controller in the picture.

Again the switch is nice, but it wouldn't be a selling point for me.
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Originally Posted by BlackTuner
How many maps can the Emanage hold?

Can you do Launch Control and Flat Shift?
Jermaine~

2 fuel maps and two timing maps that can user switched without a laptop. Other maps could be stored on a laptop and loaded.

Jermaine I am going to be selling UTECs...remember? I know that the EU doesnt do launch control or flat shift....and so do you.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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Did I miss the part where the launch control feature was discussed?
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
Did I miss the part where the launch control feature was discussed?
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
2 fuel maps and two timing maps that can user switched without a laptop. Other maps could be stored on a laptop and loaded.

Jermaine I am going to be selling UTECs...remember? I know that the EU doesnt do launch control or flat shift....and so do you.
Sharif,

The discussion is E-Manage vs. UTEC. So I was just making the comparison informative. I really wasn't challenging you on what you sell. I am a fellow Z owner as well. I'd participate in the conversation with or without working for TXS.

Here is my ride if anyone cares.

Jermaine~

P.S. The UTEC has the capability of Launch Lontrol and Flat Shift.
Launch Control- Is a feature that activates a secondary rev-limit by pushing in your clutch pedal when the car is not moving and depressing the accelerator. When you are doing this action it allows the engine to build boost by holding the car on the secondary rev-limiter. It is typical to make 4-8 psi while standing. You can use this feature to make some sick fast and consistent 60ft. times. The Launch Control rpm is user define-able. This feature is also known as a two-step.

Flat Shift - This feature on the UTEC again allows you to implement another limiter while your clutch and accelerator are depressed, this time while the vehicle is moving. What this does is allow you to shift the car without lifting off of the accelerator keeping you from banging off of the rev-limter and keeping boost on between shifts. The Flat Shift rpm is user defineable. This feature can be also called No Lift to Shift.

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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Wow thats VERY nice indeed....just to clarify this is a text line GUI correct? ANy chance of switching to a user modifiable map/spreadsheet like the Greddy, AEM, or HKS systems?

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Sharif,

The discussion is E-Manage vs. UTEC. So I was just making the comparison informative. I really wasn't challenging you on what you sell. I am a fellow Z owner as well. I'd participate in the conversation with or without working for TXS.

Here is my ride if anyone cares.

Jermaine~

P.S. The UTEC has the capability of Launch Lontrol and Flat Shift.
Launch Control- Is a feature that activates a secondary rev-limit by pushing in your clutch pedal when the car is not moving and depressing the accelerator. When you are doing this action it allows the engine to build boost by holding the car on the secondary rev-limiter. It is typical to make 4-8 psi while standing. You can use this feature to make some sick fast and consistent 60ft. times. The Launch Control rpm is user define-able. This feature is also known as a two-step.

Flat Shift - This feature on the UTEC again allows you to implement another limiter while your clutch and accelerator are depressed, this time while the vehicle is moving. What this does is allow you to shift the car without lifting off of the accelerator keeping you from banging off of the rev-limter and keeping boost on between shifts. The Flat Shift rpm is user defineable. This feature can be also called No Lift to Shift.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackTuner
Sharif,
P.S. The UTEC has the capability of Launch Lontrol and Flat Shift.
Launch Control- Is a feature that activates a secondary rev-limit by pushing in your clutch pedal when the car is not moving and depressing the accelerator. When you are doing this action it allows the engine to build boost by holding the car on the secondary rev-limiter. It is typical to make 4-8 psi while standing. You can use this feature to make some sick fast and consistent 60ft. times. The Launch Control rpm is user define-able. This feature is also known as a two-step.

Flat Shift - This feature on the UTEC again allows you to implement another limiter while your clutch and accelerator are depressed, this time while the vehicle is moving. What this does is allow you to shift the car without lifting off of the accelerator keeping you from banging off of the rev-limter and keeping boost on between shifts. The Flat Shift rpm is user defineable. This feature can be also called No Lift to Shift.
I want both features!!!
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Wow thats VERY nice indeed....just to clarify this is a text line GUI correct? ANy chance of switching to a user modifiable map/spreadsheet like the Greddy, AEM, or HKS systems?
The UTEC's interface is text based. We use Hypterminal which is found on all modern pc's. Actually you probably could tune the UTEC with a commodore or even pda. Anyway this ommits 90% of your operation system incompatibilites. Our DTEC System (Yes tuning with a gameboy) will also have the ability to interface with the UTEC to Tune as well. That is going to be the future update to our DTEC product line.

The map is in a table format and it is very simple to edit. I like the UTEC's interface because you are never lost by a 3D rendering of something. For a quick look at the interface feel free to download a UTEC manual, it actually doesn't matter which one you choose. I have a warped sense of comfort, the simple and effect interface makes you feel like, "damn I need to hurry up so I can finish and enjoy my car rather than tuning it forever". I like driving my car not tuning it.

Jermaine~

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackTuner
The UTEC's interface is text based. We use Hypterminal which is found on all modern pc's. Actually you probably could tune the UTEC with a commodore or even pda. Anyway this ommits 90% of your operation system incompatibilites. Our DTEC System (Yes tuning with a gameboy) will also have the ability to interface with the UTEC to Tune as well. That is going to be the future update to our DTEC product line.

The map is in a table format and it is very simple to edit. I like the UTEC's interface because you are never lost by a 3D rendering of something. For a quick look at the interface feel free to download a UTEC manual, it actually doesn't matter which one you choose. I have a warped sense of comfort, the simple and effect interface makes you feel like, "damn I need to hurry up so I can finish and enjoy my car rather than tuning it forever". I like driving my car not tuning it.

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This wasn't a knock I was just curious....can you point me to a link for that manual. I would like to see what the table looks like..
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I used UTEC on my WRX and tuned many other cars using utec, let me tell u this way;

e-manage is not an option as long as UTEC is available.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mistaboosta
I used UTEC on my WRX and tuned many other cars using utec, let me tell u this way;

e-manage is not an option as long as UTEC is available.
Well said. I just pre-ordered mine from here.

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Originally Posted by Gman2004
Switch or no switch, nobody drives my car (other than the shop working on it). That's like saying, I'll flip a switch on my wife and let someone bang her, but she won't feel a thing.
HAHAHA! Thats great.
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