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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Does anyone have this setup or even a stage 2. I am concidering going with the stage 3 Stillen polished setup. I know that there are other setup out there that make more power however I like the look of this setup and to be honest having the most power under the hood is not my first priority. I just want something that is still fast, looks good, sounds good and is reliable.
Any input on this from you guys would be much appreciated, hopefully someone has experience with this kit. Thanks.

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by stillnz
Does anyone have this setup or even a stage 2. I am concidering going with the stage 3 Stillen polished setup. I know that there are other setup out there that make more power however I like the look of this setup and to be honest having the most power under the hood is not my first priority. I just want something that is still fast, looks good, sounds good and is reliable.
Any input on this from you guys would be much appreciated, hopefully someone has experience with this kit. Thanks.
How are you? Having quite a bit of time on, and experience with this Stillen (actually Eaton) S/C, It seems to be a good choice for your particular wants and needs. The whine sound is cool. (I kinda miss it) All in all a great plug and play kit out of the box. Some belt issues can be common, but only problems I have seen came to surface after we tried some experamenting with custom made pullies and other things. This sounds like a good choice for you, have fun.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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I would stay with the stage 2 kit if you are not that concerned about huge power numbers. The stage 3 will give you such a little added boost that it is not worth the additional risk and having to throw away any warranty offered by stillen on the kit. I don't think any F/I car out there sounds as good as a stillen superchager at full throttle. Scott b. is right about occasional belt issues though.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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I would stay with the stage 2 kit if you are not that concerned about huge power numbers. The stage 3 will give you such a little added boost that it is not worth the additional risk and having to throw away any warranty offered by stillen on the kit. I don't think any F/I car out there sounds as good as a stillen superchager at full throttle. Scott b. is right about occasional belt issues though.
Yea...turbo cars sounds like ****...


Just my .02...I was at the dragstrip this last weekend..and ran my car to the tune of 11.7@120mph (in sig).

There was a Stillen Stage 3 auto 350Z there and he was running mid 13s @ 101-102mph all day...full auto mode with decent 60's...now something seems a little fishy..but If I spend a couple thousand dollar on an FI kit and didn't go any quicker than a stock 6-speed Z I'd be pissed. The power numbers I've seen for stillen cars haven't been impressive at all.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Like most things, the least ammount of upgrading and tweaking-on you do to this S/C to make more power, the better off you will be as for as reliability.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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Yea...turbo cars sounds like ****...


Just my .02...I was at the dragstrip this last weekend..and ran my car to the tune of 11.7@120mph (in sig).

There was a Stillen Stage 3 auto 350Z there and he was running mid 13s @ 101-102mph all day...full auto mode with decent 60's...now something seems a little fishy..but If I spend a couple thousand dollar on an FI kit and didn't go any quicker than a stock 6-speed Z I'd be pissed. The power numbers I've seen for stillen cars haven't been impressive at all.
Yes I would never disagree that the Turbo is unbeatable for speed and power. The Supercharger hits a brickwall no matter how much time and money you throw at it. Just hard to find a warranty for the Turbo kit these days... Not that they need it. lol
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 350Z4JAG
Yes I would never disagree that the Turbo is unbeatable for speed and power. The Supercharger hits a brickwall no matter how much time and money you throw at it. Just hard to find a warranty for the Turbo kit these days... Not that they need it. lol

Warranties are overrated...I don't trust many other people to work on my car.
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
How are you? Having quite a bit of time on, and experience with this Stillen (actually Eaton) S/C, It seems to be a good choice for your particular wants and needs. The whine sound is cool. (I kinda miss it) All in all a great plug and play kit out of the box. Some belt issues can be common, but only problems I have seen came to surface after we tried some experamenting with custom made pullies and other things. This sounds like a good choice for you, have fun.
What kind of problems did u have with the custom pulleys ?
What kind of HP numbers and boost, did u get with them ?
Im thinking of going down this path too ...
U have any custom pulleys for sale ?
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
Yea...turbo cars sounds like ****...


Just my .02...I was at the dragstrip this last weekend..and ran my car to the tune of 11.7@120mph (in sig).

There was a Stillen Stage 3 auto 350Z there and he was running mid 13s @ 101-102mph all day...full auto mode with decent 60's...now something seems a little fishy..but If I spend a couple thousand dollar on an FI kit and didn't go any quicker than a stock 6-speed Z I'd be pissed. The power numbers I've seen for stillen cars haven't been impressive at all.
There was definately something wrong with his car then. I haven't taken my car to the strip but I have raced a couple of modded NA Z's and it's not even close.
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Wink Stillen type S/C

Originally Posted by JAMBO
What kind of problems did u have with the custom pulleys ?
What kind of HP numbers and boost, did u get with them ?
Im thinking of going down this path too ...
U have any custom pulleys for sale ?
We have worked quite a bit on squeezing as much power as possible out of this S/C. I like it alot, just needs a better belt solution and MORE power (especially in mid to high range).

The problems we had, are that this particular (twin screw, roots style) S/C hits a certain point, or boost level where it is no longer efficient. That number is about between 8.5 to 10psi., (yes, we have had to have several custom pulleys made to find out this ratio) in these upper levels of boost the stock ECU. (unless you are running 103+ish oct.) will sense a ping and take out any gain you might have gotten back out in the way of retarding the timing (alot). We are currently (one of our many projects) working on a remedy in the way of a re-mapped split second style box, bigger fuel pump, and some other stuff. I won't bore all of you by going into great detail here. PM me and I will explain in more detail individually, case by case.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 01:17 AM
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Bri is right on the dot.

The week I got my PE TT kit, a bunch of us went to Palmdale 1/4mi track. This track is the slowest one around...and after many calcualtions, taking off about 0.8sec is a very conservative number. A stock 6mt Z with a VERY good driver, cannot get into 14's on that track...has been tried many times. 15.1xx is hte best I have seen. Anyway...

At 6.2 lbs of boost on my car (a 5AT sedan), while running side by side with a Stage 3 Stillen (I believe 7.5psi boost), I ran 13.4, while a stage 3 stillen coupe ran 14.3 or 14.2. The three drivers that I have personally communiacted with, all regret getting the stillen. To me, it's a total waisteof money. Look at Stillen's own specs...13.5 sec 1/4mile and 5.5 seconds 0-60. In a world where all manufacturers exaggerate performance figures, especially Stillen, that says it all. BTW..there was a thread about this a LONG time ago (August of 04 I believe).

I am also pretty confused about the whole 'nothign sounds better than a Stillen SC'...that constant whine would give me a headache i think. To me, TT sounds amazing. Just one man's opinion.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Wow I am a bit sad reading this after really thinking about the Stillen. I am not a big knowledgable car guy and wanted something good for a dailly driver, with a stock engine, except normal bolt ons, and it being very reliable. I don't need a Z with 400+ RWHP. I would be happy with something in the mid 300's, like 350 ish. Now I am confused. What else is out there keeping all this in mind?
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Originally Posted by lexus33
Wow I am a bit sad reading this after really thinking about the Stillen. I am not a big knowledgable car guy and wanted something good for a dailly driver, with a stock engine, except normal bolt ons, and it being very reliable. I don't need a Z with 400+ RWHP. I would be happy with something in the mid 300's, like 350 ish. Now I am confused. What else is out there keeping all this in mind?
Stillen is the best supercharger for daily driving imo. But you are limited with the power... so if you want more power... its tough to pull about 350whp without dropping ALOT of money into the car with the Stillen. Roots type superchargers are limited for HP potential. Much different then a centrifugal type supercharger. If your happy with 290whp-330whp (depending on mods) then this will work beutifully. I have also raced a fully bolt on Z, and just with the stage 2 and exhaust up to 110, I had 1 1/2 cars on him. We did multiple runs. Reliability is what your looking for go with the Stillen.
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My z runs 13.1 at 108.17. 60 ft times 2.065. Its a stillen on 275/ 35/ 19 toyos. Its also a 5 AT. Lots of mods to the car. A stock Z runs 14.5 at the track. All times were done a the Ontario Z drag day at St. thomas dragway. Can not wait for next years meet, it will run low 12,s. 19,s are not the best tire to drag on as I had to lanch at 750 rpm or it just spins the tires.
With slicks and a torque converter it should have a field day with the other Z's.
It would have gone 12.9, as I cut a 1.95 60 ft time but i hit the limiter in second gear. It still ran a 13.2.
Next year there is a turbo z coming and there is no doubt in my mind that the stillen Z will beat him.
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2003z ran a 12.87 at

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Originally Posted by lukesnyder
Stillen is the best supercharger for daily driving imo. But you are limited with the power... so if you want more power... its tough to pull about 350whp without dropping ALOT of money into the car with the Stillen. Roots type superchargers are limited for HP potential. Much different then a centrifugal type supercharger. If your happy with 290whp-330whp (depending on mods) then this will work beutifully. I have also raced a fully bolt on Z, and just with the stage 2 and exhaust up to 110, I had 1 1/2 cars on him. We did multiple runs. Reliability is what your looking for go with the Stillen.
Well put and very true, I agree 100%
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What tires did you have on the car when you went 12.87 ? That a good time.
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Originally Posted by Z ELIMINATOR
What tires did you have on the car when you went 12.87 ? That a good time.
2003z is actually the name of a forum member and I believe he was running drag radials. Also in the 350z Tuner wars article Speed magazine did the Stillen car did 0-60 in 4.9 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Z ELIMINATOR
My z runs 13.1 at 108.17. 60 ft times 2.065. Its a stillen on 275/ 35/ 19 toyos. Its also a 5 AT. Lots of mods to the car. A stock Z runs 14.5 at the track. All times were done a the Ontario Z drag day at St. thomas dragway. Can not wait for next years meet, it will run low 12,s. 19,s are not the best tire to drag on as I had to lanch at 750 rpm or it just spins the tires.
With slicks and a torque converter it should have a field day with the other Z's.
It would have gone 12.9, as I cut a 1.95 60 ft time but i hit the limiter in second gear. It still ran a 13.2.
Next year there is a turbo z coming and there is no doubt in my mind that the stillen Z will beat him.
Why don't you come and run my Turbo Z...I'll even give you a head start.
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Thank you guys for all the input, this is the kinda of stuff I wanted to hear. Like I said before my first priority really is not to be the fastest Z at the track, I have been a Z enthuziast for a long time and have a huge love for the car, I want to make sure that what I put on the car is of high quality and reliable.

WA2GOOD I think that you are right, I think it would be a good choice for me. Really the only bad reviews that I have heard from this setup is that it does not produce as much power as others and for me thats okay, I think the setup looks sweet under the hood and from what WA2GOOD says, it sounds great, which was my other concern.

Lexus33 I felt the same way that you did, however the more and more I hear people talk about this kit the more I realize that I rather have a Good quality setup that requires minimal maintenance, is really reliable and still gives you enough power to blow away stock cars....I think thats all I need.

To all you turbos out there..Dont get me wrong, I love the sound and the speed you guys produce..thanks for your input and good luck with your cars.
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