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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kcobean
It was very worth the 15 hours of driving and the round trip plane ticket to take my car to Charlotte to have the following installed and tuned...

1. AAM fuel system
2. Emanage Ultimate w/ Autosport Harness and pressure sensor
3. RC 440cc injectors
4. Blitz SBC-Id boost controller

My ECU was "unflashed" by Technosquare just so Sharif could work from a known set of maps.

I opted to do all this because my car was running very rich and generating too much boost. I wasn't willing to do the coast-to-coast ECU tuning thing with TS, who wouldn't touch the ECU (rightfully so) unless I could produce an AFR graph that displayed the whole curve (the dynos all seem to bottom out at 10.0:1 and a significant portion of my curve was sub-10).

Anyway...last dyno prior to this was 366.3/318. That was with too much fuel and too much boost (11 PSI to be exact). See The dyno graph for the details.

After having the aforementioned parts installed and tuned, the new numbers are 394.6/385. The AFR is in the low/mid 11's, the boost is right around 9 (working on some creep, but.....) and the car feels GREAT!

Here's the new graphs:



Thanks Sharif!

Freaking sweet, we are basically right on top of each other numbers wise

This is just another examples that shows how potential this kit is and like the comparison MIAPLAYA wrote (by going the Turbonetics Single "Tuner Version" Kit), for just a little more than the APS Single Turbo kit (considering after you have gotten some form of Engine/Fuel Management, Injectors, Fuel Pump, and in our cases Return Fuel Systems)... You can have straight PIMPNESS
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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I'm making the 9 hour drive Tuesday to have my TN kit installed @ CP Racing. If you build it they will come.

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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Peking
This is just another examples that shows how potential this kit is and like the comparison MIAPLAYA wrote (by going the Turbonetics Single "Tuner Version" Kit), for just a little more than the APS Single Turbo kit (considering after you have gotten some form of Engine/Fuel Management, Injectors, Fuel Pump, and in our cases Return Fuel Systems)... You can have straight PIMPNESS
I agree 100%....Turbonetics tuner kit, and the addition of the proper fuel and EMS system is an awesome combo. I have no doubt the standard turbonetics turbo can put out 500whp+ worth of airflow.

I think people are gradually starting to understand, that none of the bolt-on kits are really all that great...out of the box....and this would include the APS TT kit as well.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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I think people are gradually starting to understand, that none of the bolt-on kits are really all that great...out of the box....and this would include the APS TT kit as well.[/QUOTE]

that's an understatement.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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I think people are gradually starting to understand, that none of the bolt-on kits are really all that great...out of the box....and this would include the APS TT kit as well.
that's an understatement.[/QUOTE]

I feel ya. The kits are designed to be extremely safe, but not optimally powerful. Many customers anticipate that they will be happy with 350-370whp...but invariably, they always want more.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 12:38 AM
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total cost of everything? Those are the numbers I want to achieve eventually but need to start saving now. WIsh you could post some videos.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 04:12 AM
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Awesome, Kelly. Good to see you got your car finally running like you want.

I have the Blitz SBC on order and I should have it installed within the next few weeks to fix my overboosting problem (I'm hitting just over 9psi now). I'm going to see about dialing it back to 8.5psi once I get it isntalled, just for safety concerns.

Sharif - I was wanting to ask if you had any idea how much I could stand to gain by going with the EU and getting a solid tune, but also keeping the 380cc injectors and not adding a fuel return?
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 05:50 AM
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Kelly glad you had a good trip home and that you enjoy your car, it was great having it here everyone that came into the shop was asking about it, it is a great looking Z. If we can do anything for you in the future let us know.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 06:15 AM
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Sharif - I was wanting to ask if you had any idea how much I could stand to gain by going with the EU and getting a solid tune, but also keeping the 380cc injectors and not adding a fuel return?
Taurran, its doable, but not ideal. The 380cc Injectors are going to be close to maxed out at 400whp. And because its impossible to get constant differntial fuel pressure without a return system, and rising rate FPR, it makes tuning more challenging.

I usually advise people to wait, and save up for the complete upgrade. Return fuel system, 440cc injectors, and EU items (Or the UTEC when it's released).
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Taurran, its doable, but not ideal. The 380cc Injectors are going to be close to maxed out at 400whp. And because its impossible to get constant differntial fuel pressure without a return system, and rising rate FPR, it makes tuning more challenging.

I usually advise people to wait, and save up for the complete upgrade. Return fuel system, 440cc injectors, and EU items (Or the UTEC when it's released).
Yeah, I figured as much. Like someone said earlier in the thread, that's an expensive 30hp! Sooner or later I'll get around to it, but I think I'm going to hold off until some of the soon to be released (or announced) alternatives become available. I'll definitely be letting CPR know once I'm ready.

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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Yeah, I figured as much. Like someone said earlier in the thread, that's an expensive 30hp! Sooner or later I'll get around to it, but I think I'm going to hold off until some of the soon to be released (or announced) alternatives become available. I'll definitely be letting CPR know once I'm ready.

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Well unless the re-flashed ECU is doing well for you, then yeah it's a expensive 30-whatever HP.

But for those of us that were having problems (running to rich, bogging, really less power than the average), it is a great upgrade that you can continue to upgrade from.

Think about it, clearly it is better for the PSI we are at considering the WHP and smoothness (only needing to be in the 9psi area to make almost or at 400 WHP).
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Peking
Well unless the re-flashed ECU is doing well for you, then yeah it's a expensive 30-whatever HP.

But for those of us that were having problems (running to rich, bogging, really less power than the average), it is a great upgrade that you can continue to upgrade from.

Think about it, clearly it is better for the PSI we are at considering the WHP and smoothness (only needing to be in the 9psi area to make almost or at 400 WHP).
Yeah, I'll have to see how much power I'm hitting once I can actually regulate boost reliably. As of right now, the reflash is working allright for me. I should be around 370whp with my current setup, and am close to 11.5 afr. I guess I'm lucky that I didn't have as many problems as some (after I took the headers out, that is).

Still impressive numbers from everyone who's upgraded. And like you say, horsepower is great, but having a car that runs well and you feel comfortably safe with, is priceless.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Yeah, I'll have to see how much power I'm hitting once I can actually regulate boost reliably. As of right now, the reflash is working allright for me. I should be around 370whp with my current setup, and am close to 11.5 afr. I guess I'm lucky that I didn't have as many problems as some (after I took the headers out, that is).

Still impressive numbers from everyone who's upgraded. And like you say, horsepower is great, but having a car that runs well and you feel comfortably safe with, is priceless.
Exactly

And also to add FYI for whoever... The shop who did my install did not do the extra drilling that is now required to help with the fuel pressure, which might or did effect my results. Now I do know that others did this extra stuff and still were having problems so go figure I guess.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Peking
Exactly

And also to add FYI for whoever... The shop who did my install did not do the extra drilling that is now required to help with the fuel pressure, which might or did effect my results. Now I do know that others did this extra stuff and still were having problems so go figure I guess.

Is that in the instructions included with the kit? I am about to have my kit installed at GRD and want it to be done right the first time.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Is that in the instructions included with the kit? I am about to have my kit installed at GRD and want it to be done right the first time.
It's included in the revised instructions on the TN website.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Peking
Exactly

And also to add FYI for whoever... The shop who did my install did not do the extra drilling that is now required to help with the fuel pressure, which might or did effect my results. Now I do know that others did this extra stuff and still were having problems so go figure I guess.
You mean drilling a hole at the bottom of the Walbro fuel pump?
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Z PHAT Z
You mean drilling a hole at the bottom of the Walbro fuel pump?
The hole needs to be drilled into the stock FPR, which seats inside the fuel pump assembly.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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Congrats Kelly, I will be up there soon also! Great to hear that your car is running perfect!!! I have decided to go with the U-Tech so things might be different now... Hopefully better!
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Congrats. I hope to be posting a very similar thread soon.
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by D350Z10
Congrats Kelly, I will be up there soon also! Great to hear that your car is running perfect!!! I have decided to go with the U-Tech so things might be different now... Hopefully better!
Got any pics of the ride? Kelly again congrats and Sharif again GREAT work...
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