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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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of course not but hey no need to be an ickday. The guy's response about the ecu reflash was not that stupid.

FYI: AFIK the ECU reflash just updates the fuel maps it does not correct the DTE or mileage calculations or anything else like that.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
Huh?

What sounds better? Can someoen explain to me what he just said?

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Ive decided to go with an unpublicly released twin turbo system thanks to a couple of personal phone calls (not intending on selling his product at all but rather set me straight on the competitive turbos/scers) and with those calls plus searching for a couple hours on the products they list for their own company ive mad my decision. The install itself will put me easily over 400+rwhp without a built motor and will not savagely decrease my gas milage, and seems like a failsafe way to go. (plus i might get some media time we never know ) lets just say ive read a lot about what people that own tnetics kits have said to this company and everything falls together. People love to argue even if they dont know all the facts, but when you sit down and have 1hr 45min convo with a gentleman that has indeed exceeded my expectations as a "salesman" and a true real person, you learn a lot about a company and can be proud of technically promoting their products. ***IF THEY DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME***

Sorry to mislead in the post above... "sounds better doesnt mean the sound the car makes, but the finished product and how im taken care of as a customer" that to me is the most important, anyone can slap a bolt on scer or turbo a car with endless money... but i cant, i have to work my *** off for my money and then to have someone be behind their product so much as to insist on flying me out there to prove it.... do you think tnetics or vortech or any other leading company gonna do that for ONE person? Doubt it. So to be treated as a customer that has a 1 time chance basically of making his car what he wants it to be, and financially cant afford a screw up... its the best way for me togo. ***VRT***
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 35ounces
of course not but hey no need to be an ickday. The guy's response about the ecu reflash was not that stupid.

FYI: AFIK the ECU reflash just updates the fuel maps it does not correct the DTE or mileage calculations or anything else like that.
sorry if I came across rude. I know there is no excuse but I have had this agrument many times and it shocks me that people believe you can get better mpg when you are pushing 50% more power at the wheels.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Yeah I know. Its pretty easy to tell that your not getting the kind of mileage that the computer is telling you too.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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The total fuel flow is measured before the injectors and then the computer accounts for miles driven on the amount of fuel consumed. Injectors play no part in this.

Removing the exhaust restrictions/converters I don't see why 32mpg is out of line on the highway. I was getting 27 before the turbo. And I said HIGHWAY mpg not averaging in city driving.

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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
The total fuel flow is measured before the injectors and then the computer accounts for miles driven on the amount of fuel consumed. Injectors play no part in this.

Removing the exhaust restrictions/converters I don't see why 32mpg is out of line on the highway. I was getting 27 before the turbo. And I said HIGHWAY mpg not averaging in city driving.

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Hate to bust in but can we make a new post to talk about this? Im sure its been discussed else where and this post really isnt asking about gas milage after you gutted your cats exhaust or w/e else youve done
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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Werd the price goes up on Dec 1.
aww that sucks id still get it for that price but it sucks the price will go up before they even release the kit for my car... i smell a rev-up motor group buy...
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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that ****ing sucks they are + the price why? are they adding something to the kit i feel like if they mark up thats kinda cheating us out. they are already making a killing off of us i may be looking for another kit if this is true. if i knew someone that did charge pipes i would build my own kit.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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dont be too sour, its a business they cant give em away... im bummed to but i like it enough to give into... especially with their support on this site... that was my deciding factor on which kit to buy...
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
The total fuel flow is measured before the injectors and then the computer accounts for miles driven on the amount of fuel consumed. Injectors play no part in this.
Removing the exhaust restrictions/converters I don't see why 32mpg is out of line on the highway. I was getting 27 before the turbo. And I said HIGHWAY mpg not averaging in city driving.
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That is how I have always understood it, along with you are right from what I also understand from experience... It has been shown that less restriction (meaning from folks who keep up with full tank-compared to miles in mixed but regulary driving) can increase hwy mileage... And many boosted folks have stood by with saying that staying out of boost will slightly increase your gas mileage during normal hwy driving... Not sure why but I guess since even without building full boost... Slight boost pressure is built up and maybe helps to lean you out some more so less fuel maybe some better combustion which results in better fuel usage within those parameters (though you do not want to go to lean, cause well we all know what happens then LOL).

Anyway like I have said before, I have driven alot of cars... But the Z is one of the best hwy cars esp. with the gas milage. It is great when taking long road trips and my four banger friends have to stop for gas and I am still far from needing to fill up


Originally Posted by Daytona350Texas
Hate to bust in but can we make a new post to talk about this? Im sure its been discussed else where and this post really isnt asking about gas milage after you gutted your cats exhaust or w/e else youve done
Your right, stay on topic lol.

Also congrats on finding a way for boost that makes you feel more comfortable... I would add though that companies like Greddy, Turbonetics, APS, JWT, Cybernation, Revhard, Comptech, Stillen, HKS, etc... Kinda don't have to please or show a customer like in your case because they are past being something of a "start up". Also don't take that the wrong way, just saying that when you are up and coming (new or somewhat new) you want to do all you can to get a good reputation and what not...

Though clearly care about customer relations, hence for example Turbonetics being there for us when issues arise (threads can be found here), or when Greddy sent out some folks across the country to help with tuning issues with the K-Series kits when they were first released.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Yeah but ive always had a weird belief growing up. The smallest family owned rest had best food. Family owned packaging always sent things better then ups etc, so im thinking that a company of rising *stars* as i can i put it should be successful and they way they are conducting business is going good so far, and customer appreciation would be a 10 if 10 was best for sure
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Daytona350Texas
Yeah but ive always had a weird belief growing up. The smallest family owned rest had best food. Family owned packaging always sent things better then ups etc, so im thinking that a company of rising *stars* as i can i put it should be successful and they way they are conducting business is going good so far, and customer appreciation would be a 10 if 10 was best for sure
Please try to shroud what you are saying in a way that none of us can decipher.

Cheers Amy -

I have been warned to say thing more simply, Shariff - This guy has me beat!
I don't know what the F**K he's saying


Cheers Amy -
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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so, reading btwn the lines and cryptic blather, you're having vrt install the jwt tt, right?
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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so, reading btwn the lines and cryptic blather, you're having vrt install the jwt tt, right?
True ^^^
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