I guess moderators comments aren't getting through to you...

 

so there is a 400 price increase because of "manufactoring costs"? this is my take, correct me if i'm wrong. company 't' puts out a kit that costs less and is comparable to company 'a'. word on the street is company 't's' kit is the better value. so company t raises the price of the kit just under company 'a's' kit and it sells like hotcakes. not trying to hate cuz that's business. just to keep oleg updated on the differences in the 2 kits, aps does have a bigger capacity oil pan, semi-return fuel system, and programmable piggy-back system. sure, these parts are not neccessary for most people, but in the kit regardless.

 

Ditto to what 35ounces said. They aren't asking people who have the kit to send $500 in..I tried to explain this already. Production costs are going up. They aren't just raising the price on this kit. The price of every kit is going up. Supra, Sentra, you name it. I can understand people wanting to know why and all I can say is what I was told. If telling people what Turbonetics told me is being a puppet so be it. Fortunately there are some people who actually are happy about that fact that I post information when I have it. And as for saying Turbonetics is not in it to make money I never said that. Of course they are in it to make money. My point from the beginning of this all was that they are not increasing the price JUST to make some extra money. They could have done that a LONG time ago if that was the case. It costs them more to make the kits and unfortunately because of that prices are going to go up. As for the Open House people can believe what they want but I think those of us who went know that it was more then just advertising. How many companies have EVER done something like this? Jisnis is a perfect example of why companies don't do this more often.

 

Sure that would make sense if you are talking about secluding a segment of the market and only raising the price in the segment because of competition and to increase profits. But if that is the case would you risk pushing away customers from other market segments that are unrelated just to increase profits in one tiny segment of the overall market? I wouldn't and I don't think any company would. The fact is price is going up for EVERY kit including those that have nothing to do with this market segment.

 

This one is $550

http://www.i-m-racing.com/visfucafiho3.html

 

Stillen has one every year. But I guess they're only doing it from the goodness of their hearts.

 

If you take it personally, then its on you. I was only commenting on whats in my head.

 

Hmm...
Not bad looking hood actually. And would prabably be even chaper in fiberglass (I plan to keep it body color). You know, I am going to tone down the righteous fury and when it's time to put in the FI I will re-examine both options in terms of total price and upgrade potential. I don't think I'll go wrong with either one.

 

Stillen happens to be the only other one...and like I have said I don't know about a hundred times I never said they ONLY did it to be nice...of course it was advertisement for Turbonetics. But thats not the ONLY reason it was done. What part of that don't you understand.

 

I guess in the end we'll see how the moderator "takes" it..

 

Thats a good idea I've actually seen that hood in person and it is a very nice peice. Zboy has that hood. Check this thread for some better pics of it:
https://my350z.com/forum/southern-california/152940-official-southern-california-cruise-meet-thread-5.html

 

So explain what other reason they were doing it for?

 

Oh, is this the concrete evidence you were talking about.

 

TO have a car show of just Zs and Gs, to get people there and have their questions answered by an engineer for Nissan, to teach people what a compressor maps looks like, how to read a compressor map, and the importances of turbo selection for a given application, to show people what machining equipment looks like and what can be made from rough castings or raw metal, to explain what VSR testing is and how it is done, to get everyone together, and most of all to have a good time. So does Stillen offer free tri tip to everyone at Stillen day? They didn't last time I went. I'm sorry but when was the last time Stillen gave away a complete turbo kit? Hmm, never...gotcha.

 

Who said anything about "concrete evidence"? I sure didn't. I think I have repeated myself enough today.

 

All that is for advertising. Get it through your head. Its to get there name out there. After them showing all that stuff about turbos...did they say now go buy an APS or Greddy turbo kit??? No, they want people to buy there kit because they showed that they are knowledgeable. Did they do it out of the kindness of their hearts? NO. "Tri Tip" whoppee f'n do. They gave out a turbo kit because they wanted to get people to come. If they didnt have a motive they would give it out to everyone there. You're so full of it. Give it up. Everyone knows their in it for the money. Dont be so naive.

 

Per MIA: You call my opinoin one of assumptions when the fact is you have ZERO info or ANY kind of idea what goes on there and are in fact posting on nothing but your pure speculation on everything. If you think I am a puppet you are SORELY mistaken. You clearly don't know me personally so where do you get off telling me what I am and what I do.

So I guess you are basing your argument on assumptions cause you only heard it through the grapevine. That was one of your first posts. Then you turn around and say you are just relaying what Turbonetics told you. Come on buddy. Just face it. A company is here to make money. I dont have a problem with that. More power to them. But when you come on here and try to justify your "Gods" (Turbonetics) intentions. Its pretty pathetic and naive in my opinion. But you can sit there and keep on praising them its your progative. I have no problems towards Turbonetics. Just your biased statements.

 

Dude they didnt have to do any of that. It is more than just advertising. I think everyone else gets it so give it a break already. I'm sure glad you didn't win the free turbo kit.

 

Im done here. Im gonna pm Turbonetics now. Hopefully they will give me a free turbo kit. Since they have no hidden agendas and are only here to help and support the Z community. I'll tell them MIAPLAYA sent me.

 

One more....I would have sold it and got the APS TT.