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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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i have finally had it with the tilton set up as it seems to be getting worse to drive then better. i am having to dodge cops now cause it engages so hard i usually spin the tires on take off and don't want to get another exhibition of speed for something so stupid. i feel most of the problems are my solid motor mounts and the superlight flywheel.
i need true comparisons from people that have driven not only another clutch but have driven the tilton too to give a comparison. i am thinking of putting the stock flywheel back in to help with the inertia and the dual mass and dampening effects. i have seen a couple single disk clutches that mount to the stock flywheel. anyone have experience with them?
i don't care anymore about extracting every last ounce of power from the car, i just want the s o b to be easy and fun to drive again! chatter and that stuff i don't care about either.
the tilton is a great clutch, but not for city driving.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Scott, eventually, when you are all done with your tuning, your car is going to be putting down well over 500whp at the wheel, with your built motor and all. I know what you mean about chatter, but keep in mind the Tilton is the worst offender in that department. Dont let your experience with the Tilton convince you to ditch a lightened flywheel all together. The 9.9;9llb flywheels on the ATS cluches are really easy to start. I will take some video on Sunday and show you what I mean.

You could also do an RPS 6 puck and 18lb flywheel setup, for half the price.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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take your pick

http://www.350z-
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(link on 2 lines because the site owners hate me)
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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thanks for the reassuarance all is not lost shariff. i knew the tilton was tough when i bought it, but just when i thought i had it down, it seems to even be harder to time it now for some reason. i miss the fact of being able to jump into the car and take off hwen ever i want, now i find myself waiting till late night to drive the car anywhere to save some embarrassment of looking like an idiot by either stalling the car or sounding like i'm doing a serious launch, lol.
i thought i would try the stock flywheel first to try and get it as close to stock again as i can then go from there and decide on a lightened flywheel too. i have seen single disk kits from clutch masters, spec, rps with some even having sprung disk hubs. just curious if anyone has first hand experience with any of these.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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know what you mean, i miss that too

I'm going with the ATS dual, but hoping it'll be much easier to drive than the tilton because of it's diameter and heavier weight. Then I'm switching the UR pulley to the KJR pulley, and the vortech SC which should add some extra slow down to the rev up
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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The guys at GRD said my ATS triple was very streetable.
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well after tons of research i am leaning towards the rps 6 puck set up with rps adjustable pressure plate and sprung hub 6 puck disk. i have seen a few places you have to use this with the rps flywheel, then heard that it can be used with the stock flywheel also. need to talk to rps personally to make sure on this. they may just have a new set up that can be used with the stock flywheel.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by overZealous1
well after tons of research i am leaning towards the rps 6 puck set up with rps adjustable pressure plate and sprung hub 6 puck disk. i have seen a few places you have to use this with the rps flywheel, then heard that it can be used with the stock flywheel also. need to talk to rps personally to make sure on this. they may just have a new set up that can be used with the stock flywheel.
You don't have to use the RPS flywheel, but you can NOT use the stock unit. RPS flywheels use Z32 clutchs... Any flywheel that has the mounting holes for a Z32 clutch (such as JWT) will work...
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 07:10 AM
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Man I need to do a video for u guys cause my Tilton RALLY does not act like that anymore.........It can slip now.....The trick was to get the initial wear off the disks then sand all the crap off em......

Keep in mind I was bored and not an expert...just wanted to see WTF was going on and decided to clean up the Clutch assembly...


It is also my opinion the Tilton is Very Tempermental on climate...

Due to my move from Georgia to Hawaii

And lastly overZealous1 altough I cant right now I may be interested in getting the Clutch pack from you if u decide to change it out and cant sell the thing as a whole.....

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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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ya it has seemed to get way worse once the temp dropped below 35 here. thats when i finally decided to get rid of it. i can get it to slip but, really i don't have the patience for the concentration it takes for every take off. i live in the city and there is always traffic here for most hours of the day. the clutch engagement i can handle, it is how dam fast the thing revs that i can't get down. the slightest touch and you are near redline. i need more flywheel weight to let it out normal and consistently. but yes it does seem to make a big difference when it gets colder outside.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 08:17 AM
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rush hour is a ***** with the tilton at times

also if you ever are trying to drive quietly it sucks - like at 3am, not wanting to **** off your neighbors by reving to 3-4k just to get in gear etc
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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The ATS triple carbon is awesome! I hated the tilton when I drove a car with it, and the owner has removed it for a dual ATS carbon since - but believe it or not, the triple is more streetable.
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How much power can this ATS triple carbon hold and how much does it cost.

Originally Posted by Philthy
The ATS triple carbon is awesome! I hated the tilton when I drove a car with it, and the owner has removed it for a dual ATS carbon since - but believe it or not, the triple is more streetable.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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http://www.a-t-s-usa.com/ats-product...ch-table.shtml

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How much power can this ATS triple carbon hold and how much does it cost.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by barthelb
How much power can this ATS triple carbon hold and how much does it cost.

ATS triple carbon can hold 1200hp with 1100kg pressure plate, and 1500hp with the 1350kg pressure plate. And the triple is even more streetable than the already smooth twin.

We have them on Holiday Special this month: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159428
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
You could also do an RPS 6 puck and 18lb flywheel setup, for half the price.
I like the way you think...
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Originally Posted by 002-M-P
I like the way you think...
ya this is the area i am leaning towards. i have spent enough money in this car already. if i could drive someones car to see how the different clutches drove, then i might entertain the idea of spending the big dough for a clutch. but i feel the tilton is a big loss already and don't want to waste more money. actually that is the main reason for this thread, lol.
actually i will call you sharif tomorrow. i know you will steer me in the right direction and have first hand knowledge of alot of these clutches. the prob i am running into is one person says "yes the act 6 puck is sprung hub" and another says "no the act 6 puck is not sprung hub" and both come up with different tq holding capacities too for the same clutch! i am running into this with every clutch i am looking at or see advertised. nobody seems to give consistent answers to what i am seeing advertised about the single disk clutches.
BART, wheres that clutch sticky thread i have been bugging you about, lol.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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RPS 6puck is most definately a spring hub.

Sure...give me a call. I always call them like I see them.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 05:42 AM
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Even with a sprung hub a puck clutch engages immediately. The ATS will allow you to slip it. You will not be able to slip a puck clutch much at all. If driveability is your concern, spend the money and get the twin or triple disc ATS. I had a 4 puck with a sprung hub prior to the ATS and did not enjoy it.
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