Okay... Everyone and their momma has told me if I get the turbonetics single turbo kit that I have to have the UTEC, Boost controller, new injectors and fuel line...

WILL it be possible for me to order the Turbonetics single turbo + Gauges and pod... have it installed and tuned with what is given to me at under the recommended boost amount... subtract 1lbs of boost less... till I am able to afford the UTEC, controller, injectors and the such?

so simple question... take the Turbonetics kit + Crawford Plenum + topspeed headers + kinetix test pipe + HKS ti. Dual exhaust + KJR Pulley... now have it professionally installed... then taken over to a local tuner and have it tuned with what it came with... WILL my car not work correctly?

 

It should but you never know till it is installed and put on the dyno. With the mods you have listed you might need to have it tuned with a EU or a UTEC. I think you will need more tuning than the TN flash. Good luck with what ever you decide to do.

 

Does the Turbonetics kit come with electronic boost control availible? or just a flash that will allow for standard boost amount... like I would not be able to adjust the boost to a lower amount

 

You would have to replace the wastgate spring with a lower boost one. The TN kit comes with a 8 - 9lb spring. You could get a lower one and then get a boost controler to adjust it.

 

i dont think u can use topspeed headers.. stock exhaust manifold allows for quicker spool. But i dont see why the TN kit would be dangerous at stock boost and the reflash. Many people have gotten it safely. I'm sure itll work for you until u can afford teh other stuff.

 

i've read the tnetx reflash is suitable when everything else is stock. with all the mods you have, you could have problems with just the reflash. ask jetpilot and kcobean.

 

Anyone know who I could call to figure out if Topspeed headers will work or if not?

Understandable... Then the only option is to also but the Utec with it... but thats only another $899 from intense... not super worried about that... could I go with the TN kit + Utec and be okay?

 

Yes with the UTEC you will be fine because you can fine tune your car for your mods. The smart thing to do would be install the stock kit run it on the dyno and see if is safe. That way you save the $1100 for the UTEC with the tuning.
You never know you might be fine with the flash. It has worked fine for many people. Remember there are over 169 TN kits sold. Im sure most of them are not bone stock and they seem to be running fine. Just remember to get a wideband O2 and boost gauge installed no matter what you go with. Good Luck.

 

I'll let the boards know once mine is done. I've got a Crawford plenum, but removed my topspeed headers. I think you'll run into slower spooling and clearance issues with the topspeed headers. I also have the Amuse exhaust.

My install is one clamp away from being complete.

 

Good luck, I hope it runs well on the flash.

 

Thanks, I hope so. There is one clamp left but it's the wrong size. Mia's helping me out with getting the right one.

 

Mia is a great help with the TN kit. Please post after your install. We need a good post about TN. Everything is so negative about TN lately.

 

yah the negative posts started to scare me back to supercharger ways... but from what ive read now I know I can get the kit for a really good price + utec just to be safe... i can have everything for about 5.5k... that will work out for me I believe!

now to just learn how to ease on the gas and take the turns correctly... I believe I'll be apex'in my way to a VERY solid competition car for SM2 here in detroit region autocrossing

 

I hear you guys about the negative posts. I know I'm not getting on it until I'm dyno'd and my gauges are working.

I think Phatmitzu has the T'netics with the Amuse exhaust and he's making power at 8.5psi. My "unknown" variables at this point are the plenum and the Jet-Hot coated oem headers.

I was thinking supercharger for the track before also. Then I drove Mia's car and the power felt really linear, but damn fast!

 

Hey what's up it's Derek (the guy with the silver G w/overlays). Did you reflash your ECU back to stock or does the TN reflash override every thing that TS has done? I was just wondering since I will be FI in a couple of weeks and I have a TS reflash. We all need to get together when I get back in late Feb and make a nice FI video if possible during the day. Good luck with that last clamp and how is the amuse exhaust? Do you have a picture of it on your car or a sound clip? Thanks

 

Hey man, when are you coming back? You going T'netics ST or JWT?

Actually, I'm not sure about the TN flash blowing everything away that Techno did. The fuel maps will change and the rev limiter will go back to 6600 (99% sure, will verify). I won't mind if they leave the top speed governor off. Hehe. Not sure about the throttle positioning at WOT. I'll ask Mia about it tomorrow.

Amuse:

http://media.putfile.com/Amuse-WOT-at-the-track

 

Everyone and their momma is wrong...

Install it and see where that exhaust puts you. Then make your decision.

 

Don't forget to add in the cost of the gauges, the gauge pod and the other necessary items that aren't included with the standard kit and the UTEC. Then you might want to look into an oil catch can to prevent oil blow by / detonation and a few other small nick nacks like turbo timers, etc... The $5.5K number is nice to throw around but it seems to ALWAYS cost much more than that from what I've experienced and read on this forum. Just put together a detailed shopping list and include the boost gauge, wide band, egt gauge, gauge pod, etc... and see where you end up. I'd be surprised if it wasn't closer to $7k when you're all said and done and then you still have to add on the install and tuning costs on top of that.

Also, it would be a good idea to make sure you have someone nearby who can tune the UTEC. That is the most important thing to remember. It's all about a good tune.

Happy boosting!

 

topspeed headers wont let the kit work, so no you have to put your stock headers back on, and i would definately not run the kit with just the flash, i have the kit and i have a big thread on my car and just with my catback i blew my motor so trust me, dont run the kit unless you have the utec or something to tune it, its too shakey with boost spiking and stuff, if you dont have the money for the utec, then you dont have a turbo kit str8 out, dont put it on till you have the utec to put on the car also.

 

The T'netics kit has proven itself to be used safely only on a stock car. Don't do anything else if you get this kit. Headers won't do anything for you either when you go with FI. Best not to take any chances with that sort of stuff.

Even aftermarket exhausts have thrown off the reflash as of recently and a couple of people have blown their engine.

If you leave your car completely stock you should be perfectly fine with the kit...otherwise don't mess with it if you plan on doing the headers and exhaust. You could also step up to UTEC or emanage Ultimate if you do want to modify and just get the T'netics tuner kit if thats available..