Cool... seems like there are a lot of TN ST's on here and MUCH less APS ST's... glad to see another aps... I'd love pictures of the set up! Any dyno or estimation of WHP?

 

my fellow installer took a lot of pics - when he has time, he will get them to me and I will get them up

Thanks

 

Congratulations, Zivman! Sounds like you are now pushing the performance envelope out there where that old demon lives at 1.0 on the metaphorical mach meter. I hope to join you soon.

I have tranny beefed up and will have APS TTs installed when the snow permits me to drive to GRD.

Regarding the Hatfiedl/McCoy thing, just remember, we of the APS Continuum may not always be right....but DAMMIT, we ain't NEVER wrong!!!! (he he)

GOOD LUCK! And may my Lady of Sacred Acceleration never fail you!

APS RULES!

 

I saw numbers from 10.0 on up today.
I have the new 6-1 AEM Wideband - maybe that makes the difference.

 

I guess I have an older one.

 

how is the modability on the APS ST? i mean this by could i put on exhaust, plenum, pulleys? and still be safe?

 

you can put alll that on it, its nothing like the Tubor netics kit........so youll be safe

 

You are a moron. Many people have exhaust, plenums and crank pullies on the TN kits with no issues of a lean a/f or detonating. Just because less than a handfull of guys do, you dont need to trash talk the kit. Educate yourself before making stupid comments, I dont go around bashing the ghey boost taper issue(because of the stupid exhaust restrictor you need to modify for decent redline boost) or the smoking that many of the APS ST kits run. Every kit will have its problems

 

hey but plenty of ppl have also had problems after puting on an exhuast sytem too..........

 

Plenty? So out of the 150+ kits you think because less than 10 guys on here have had issues thats plenty? Your obviously biased, and thats fine but dont go around sharing your lack of knowledge on other kits....

 

The smoking issue was a faulty check valve which has been rememdied. The boost tapering is basically the result of running a restrictive exhaust. I won't comment on the TN issues in this post.

The APS setup is fine with things like a plenum and crank pulley. IMO, you need to run the APS exhaust to have this setup run at it's best. The APS ST exhaust was designed to bolt directly to the DP on this setup. Other exhausts will not necessarily bolt up to them without some custom work. That said, as long as the flow is there, and you can get it to fit, you can run any exhaust you choose...again, as long as the flow is there.

The APS exhaust is a great exhaust, flows better than anything I know of out there (with the same or less diameter piping). It has a good tone to it, no drone, and it's made sepecifically for the APS ST setup.

 

APS hasn't popped any motors. People may complain about smoking in a few kits and boost tapering, but hey, there car's are still running. Keep in mind, the 2 small issues with the APS kit are easy fixes, not like a full motor build, and then going out to get all the missing pieces needed for the TN setup to run "safe".

I agree, every kit is going to have issues, but please don't compare the detonation, blown motors, and 2K-3K in extra parts needed on the TN kit to the already remedied smoking issue and boost tapering.

 

I dont want to get into an APS vs TN dispute, like I said every kit has issues, some are solved easier than others. For some TN cars, people have to spend $$$ to relocate the wastegate-has happened to less than 5 guys, I can think of only 2. For you APS ST guys you need to drop another $700+ on an APS exhaust that bolts right up or spend $$$ to have the exhaust mod'd just to be able to hold boost to redline. I see no reason to bash other kits when they all have their ups and downs. That is all Im saying. If you think APS hasnt blown any motors because you havent heard about it, then you must like having smoke blown up your a$$ I know of a few APS TT that have blown I dont know much on the ST I honestly dont read up on that kit much. And the TN does not need 2-3K in additional parts, again misinformed spreading lies.

 

No matter what kit you get, IMO, need to get an aftermarket exhaust. With the APS setup, you are basically forced into running the APS ST exhaust. Which, by the way is $1K.

With the TN, you are limited to what exhaust you can run as well. I couldn't run a borla true dual, or stillen, or APS dual for more than just fitment reasons(fear of popping my motor).

 

Please PM me blown motors on ANY APS setup that are caused by the kit. I am willing to bet I am more informed than you think.

 

Why should I PM you, do a search on blown motors yourself. I remember seeing a post where a shop owner said he knew of 2 blown APS TT's, but that the guys werent on the boards. He told everybody because an APS nuthugger like yourself was telling everybody that APS had never blown a motor...anyways Im down with you and your other APS nuthugger friend, this is gonna turn into an APS vs TN debate, and we dont need another one of those, keep thinking TN < APS ST if it helps you sleep better at night.

And BTW-its WAY cheaper to have a reverse y-pipe made to have a Borla or any TD fitted to the TN downpipe than it is to spend $1000 on an APS exhaust just to have the kit hold boost, but Im sure you already knew that smart guy.

 

Nice that you resort to name calling. Enjoyed your input. Thanks

 

^^ Me name calling is about as childish as telling people about incompetant TN owner blow-ups every chance you get. Thanks for your much uneducated input as well....

 

Geez you two act like you work for APS and TN, drop it already!

 

After driving the car, I would guess it to be in the neigborhood of 360whp as is. the owner is going to be an aftermarket plenum when he tunes. I think upper 390's is what he will be 'stuck' with when things end up

My fellow installer has all the pics, but has been too busy to get them off his camera. I will post them up when he finds time to get them to me.

this is the only pic I have at the time - taken by the owner when he got it home: