I have had the SSV on my car for about a month. I just had my G retuned for the SSV. (I am running APS ST.)

Based on the dyno, the SSV has given me about 50 new ponies. Not a bad investment. Will try to post the dyno sheet later.

 

Based on the experiences of many others with the SSV most of your "ponies" came from your new tune.

What were your final numbers?

 

yeah my brother has the ssv with his procharger and had very little gains.

 

If he was running a stock plenum before, it is reasonable to say about 20whp came from the SSV... IMO.

 

I knew everyone would doubt the claims. So I will post the dyno tonight.

Some of the ponies may have been from the tune, but, the tuner -- who did my APS ST and is the only person who has tuned my car -- did nothing more than tune the car for the SSV and even he was amazed by the increase.

 

I knew everyone would doubt the claims. So I will post the dyno tonight.

Some of the ponies may have been from the tune, but, the tuner -- who did my APS ST and is the only person who has tuned my car -- did nothing more than tune the car for the SSV and even he was amazed by the increase.

FYI -- I was running a Kinetix V4 before the switch to the SSV. I have a borla exhaust with a custom adapter to the down pipe on the SSV.


Oh, forgot, went from 318 to 368.

 

I am not doubting the gains. My point is if you would have had your APS ST tuned without the SSV you would have seen the same gains. There is one guy that has an APS TT and switched out the stock plenum for the SSV. Even after tuning he ended up with less whp than what he got when he tuned with the stock plenum.

 

For you to definitively say that you gained 50whp from the SSV you would have to had dynoed the car with the V4 and then re-dynoed with out any tuning after installing the SSV.

 

Gotcha. the dyno sheet I have has the original run with the V4.

I'll ask him if he did a base line dyno before the tune; he probably does and it is probably saved on the computer.

 

I didn't know you could run this with FI?

 

Yea, you probably should not, but when I asked Kinetix they said it would be okay. But I doubted their claim and ordered the SSV; didn't get the SSV until after the APS ST install and it several weeks before the SSV arrived.

I have had the V4 for over a year; no problems when running NA.

 

You only had 318 RWHP with the APS kit, V4 Plenum, and Borla Exhaust? That sounds very low. Even 368 RWHP sounds low. Is your boost tapering off? I think you need more tuning. There are guys with low 400 RWHP with your mods.

 

There is no tappering. It is a conservative tune; if I want bigger numbers I am sure they could -- the tuner is APS authorized and they are working on the TT kit for car certification. I have no doubt that he can push my car to huge numbers, but I want the engine to last me a bit longer.

By the way, it is a 5AT.

 

Did u have a tune before w/ the V4? If you got the gain w/ a tune on the SSV from a tuned V4, i'd concider it a succesful upgrade? Don't you agree?

 

Uhmmmmm...... 400 RWHP is completely safe and your engine will last just as long at 400RWHP as it will with 368 RWHP. All that money for a car that runs in the low 13's? Why spend $1000 on a plenum when you could have gotten 368 from the APS kit and the tune alone??

Respect
JET

 

the numbers are both after tune; I am trying to get the dyno before the tune with the SSV.

Jet -- You make alot of assumptions regarding what my out of pockets are for my mods and that I actually pay for my parts. Please keep that in mind.

 

Yeah that's a pretty unsafe assumtion that people pay for their mods.

The unsafe assumtion here is that you extracted 50HP from an intake when you have no before and after dyno runs with the intake being the only factor that changed.

Your claim has no scientific validity.

Respect
JET

 

Nice numbers Orlando333! This has been some interesting reading! Having done the initial testing on the Kinetix IM (prototype) and then again on the Kinetix IM SSV prior to release and also like you having a V4 installed with my SC, I find your numbers credible.

Everything I did was initiated with a thread starting 4/10/2005. Skepticism about the numbers, criticism about SC tuning, tuning prior to doing dyno pulls with V4 and retuning prior to doing pulls with SSV. I would have been on a dyno forever had I tried to satisfy everyones comments. Again, NICE NUMBERS! Enjoy the additional RWHP and Torque!

 

The op did pretty much the same thing you did........dyno'ed with out SSV and no tuning, then installed SSV and retuned. You can't honestly say your 50whp gain was from the SSV.

 

Sorry, I don't believe that 50 hp came from the SSV. I think the APS tall boy is as good of design as the SSV, yet FI owners are only seeing 15 hp more with it. This is not much more than a plenum spacer that is much less money.

Although the SSV allows you to keep the strut bar and looks cool. Yet, I will spend my money on the spacer and have more money for other mods.