True but aps= unichip= impossible to find tunners and also not that great of a engine management unit.... Greddy TT with the UTEC and fuel pump and return system you will be set... the new greddy tt also comes with a oilpan!!

 

So, you couldn't just as easily run the utec on the aps kit as on the greddy????

Also, keep in mind, the APS kit is safe out of box without a custom tune(I still recommend a custom tune). The unichip is a more than capable EMS especialy if running stock motor. It looses it's capabilities when you start going high HP and start upgrading things. Yes, FOR SOME, there aren't unichip tuners nearby. My closest tuner was 400+ miles away. That said, even if I ran the utec, I would still travel the 400+ miles to have the same tuner tune my utec if I decide to upgrade.

 

I have the Greddy TT kit and i love it and it does come with the oil pan little deeper looks nice. i mean im not all about dragging the car but i think the Greddy TT kit will get you there. APS kit you can do alot to but then you'll have to rebuild your motor. Greddy TT you'll need return fuel line and fuel pump, exhuast and new spark plugs hm.. only thing weird is that the kit doesnt come with a BOV. yeah weird.. a company that makes BOV doesn't give you one with kit. and you'll have to buy a intercooler too. it doesnt comem with it. well neways i love both kits =)

 

Please explain?????? From my knowledge, APS has the best track record when it comes to kits running on stock motors.

 

Yes but The Greddy TT will save you money compared to the Aps TT... thats what I meant. Also you can get the 20g upgrade for the turbo's for I think a total of 6400 with fimic... somthing to think about when going for big power.

 

if you plan on a TT setup, the kits will be within a grand of each other if done right. price is a mute point especially if you are going for big power. a grand or two when you are talking a fully built long block etc isn't going to make much of a difference

 

That's mainly because there are a lot less APS kits out there than greddy...And people have now realized that it's all about TUNING now and not just throwing on turbo's and heading down to the nearest track.

I can easily drop another 4 g's to add pistons/rods, fuel return, bc, etc. but I'd rather spend it on my kit/paint... the point is I don't want to keep spending money on it. I have a feeling it won't stop after that. (I'll break something or something will be insufficient and I'll need to upgrade...the radiator for example) Not everyone wants to keep throwing money into their engines but your right, If your going for big power then money is deff. not a concern and in that case either kit is capable of enough hp to kill yourself!

ps: I have the greddy at stock boost.

 

I've gone aftermarket turbo 3 times on 3 other cars. The Z is no exception. Never going back to NA again. No offense NA guys.

 

Im going to agree here, the only NA I am going to ever go again will be SUV and then again it might end up with a S/C or custom turbo set-up then

 

Very true.. NEVER DRIVING A NA CAR AGAIN!!!

 

This is not necessarily true when you add everthing in to make the kit safe at 8 lbs of boost. Then you have to add some kind of return fuel system. The greddy kit is within 500 of aps without a return fuel system. Keep in mind I'm not knocking the greddy kit. But people need to know is necessary to make it safe for certain power levels and the cost behind it. Then they can compare the 2 kits and see which works for them the best.

 

What i think is that APS did their homework greddy did it as soon as the car came out. Now as far as performance goes both turbo kits do same hp gains. We will just have to see when people start building their engines whos going to make the more HP. But lets all just enjoy are kits and be safe.

 

So why would you need to build your motor with the aps setup and not the greddy???

From my knowledge, there have been two blown motors with the aps setup. Neither of which were directly related to the kit. Even if you look at the # of blown motors in relation to total kits sold, APS still comes out on top.

And just an FYI... People ALWAYS knew how important tuning was.

 

people know how important tuning is but no one new what other components was the greddy missing to put it to that 8 pound set up and for it be running safe at that level. I will give it to APS they have done their homework and have come out with a great kit. That was the only disadvantage greddy had it wasnt complete and people thought it was ok to boost it up with out knowing that it required a some extra parts. Also remember whne the greddy came out no body knew nothing on the VQ motors and how they reacted to boost. Now its different

 

Excuse my inferior knowledge. Everyone knew how boost would react to the VQ as soon as the greddy kit came out. Your right, that's exactly why people were blowing their motors. The greddy kit obviously is missing parts though like the fuel pump and bov for starters. Then people started playing with a Boost controller and that's when a lot of the blown motors started happening. No one really is getting the APS kit and a BC and upping the boost because they're pretty happy with the hp output on 8-9 lbs compared to the greddy 5.6 stock. Again, the APS IS MORE COMPLETE out of the box and therefore they have less blown motors.
If people would have thrown the kit on with the fuel pump, bov and left the boost alone there probably would have been a lot less blown motors seeing as how greddy runs the e-manage pretty rich out of the box.

 

hey im looking at TT'ing my Z. I want the most dependable kit, and i dont wanna be playing with forged internals, maybe just like a radiator and minor things like that. Which kit should i go with to get the most for my money and put down between 400 and 500 whp? thanks.

 

you still have a lot to learn about the kits.

 

APS

 

I would say aps. I got mine, with test pipes and exhaust I was 400 rwhp out of the box. Now with a very conservetive
tune 440 rwhp. This is with an a/f of 10.8 - 11.1 9.5 lbs of boost. If you get this or any other kit have an experienced shop install it. Don't be penny wise and dollar foolish with the install.

 

thanks. and that shouldn't be a problem on the stock engine as long as i keep the boost pretty low? Are you on the stock motor captj3? also, how much should i expect to pay for a good shop install?

ps. This is not for beating at the strip or track, just for weekend fun and backroads for an 18 year old kid. also why would you specifically choose the aps kit for me? even with a BOV, fuel pump and return, you wouldn't recommend the greddy kit on stock motor? thanks