i want to get more power, has any one tried both and which is better. mainly for road use. any imput appreciated?

 

I know you are new and all so here are a few tips.

#1. Use the search function within the forum to look up information before posting questions that have been asked and answered hundreds of times.

#2. Read and educated yourself and you will enjoy your car 100% more.

 

Yeah, i'm new too, and i've read enough posts to realise people get pretty pissed of when the get the same question a million times. But anyway, thats just for future reference.
If you want to FI your car, you really need to do your own research, dont take people word for it.
As a general guidline, if you want streetability, your best just sticking with a supercharger, but if you want that edge, then you'll probably want a turbo. That is just in general. You can get turbo setups that are still very streetable, but in general SC's are more friendly.

 

In your opinion how is a supercharger more streetable than a turbo. If anything it's the other way around the way I look at it.

You car drives like a stock car off boost. The engine doesn't even know the turbo is there when it's off boost. So explain how a supercharger is more streetable please.

Respect
JET

 

The answer to your question depends on how much money you have to work with. If money was not a factor I would go TT for sure.

 

newby here!! sup guys, but isnt the supercharger more reliable and streetable than the turbo since there are less moving parts?? supercharger works with a belt, turbo with exhaust gasses. less parts to install also, no turbo lag too, just my 2 cents!!

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georgieporgie!

 

What's your argument the supercharger is more reliable.... they are both reliable. How much more reliable do you want something to be when it works 100% of the time.

Respect
JET

 

Both F.I.systems are reliable but I think the question is which system is less likely to result in an engine problem(s).. Here I think the Turbo with its significantly higher Tq capability puts the engine (stock) under a higher probability of downstream problems..

 

Boost is boost. The engine doesn't know what's attatched to it. BigBri has 550 rwhp on the stock block with a TT setup. I'd have to say 450 hp would be no issue whatsoever. Tourque is insignificant. Your tires will always break loose and eleviate the torque before something breaks. With slicks that's a different story. The tires have a definative threshold for torque before they break loose. You can make 1000 pounds of tourque. If your tires break loose at 400 ft lbs your driveline is only absorbing 400 ft lbs.

Respect
JET

 

supercharge: around 4k to 5K
turbo: ~10K or more

Sooooooooo...how much do you have in your bank now?

 

wait, what the hell are you talking about?

Since when is turbo $10k or more? Turbonetics single turbo kit can be had for LESS than the vortech SC kit brand new, with EVERYTHING needed to install and run.

Oh boy, another person spouting off when they don't know exactly what they're talking about.

 

Some general facts I believe: 1. Engines generally run hotter with a turbo VS s/c. Heat is not good for engines...2. Tq is significant since that is what the engine produces and creates the force to rotate the tires.. Turbos develop significantly higher Tq levels than s/c and they do so very early in the rpm and at a rate of rise which is almost vertical compared to a s/c which is gradual and at higer rpms. (a lot of energy into the system over a short period of time) Resulting in a lot of stress/strain on the the engine that has to be reacted against by the rods, bearings, crank, drivetrain etc..Actually Hp is meaningless. It is an esoteric measurement without units and has no physical relationship with anything other than what a horse can could lift which was a 550 pound weight one foot in one second...Thanks Mr Watt..

 

I can see where your coming from there, and in that respect your right. But for the Z for instance on a twin turbo setup, you'll be using small turbos that spool up quick and early, and when the boost does kick in, its not as gradual as a supercharger, it kick and then your off like a rocket. Whereas on a supercharger you'll have that boost right from the get go, and it will increase gradually. Obviously this may vary from SC to SC. Thats the way i see it as more streetable. Now in terms of reliability, i'm not saying which is more reliable, TT or SC, they are probably both just as reliable, but the SC as it runs on lower boost, doesn't hurt the engine as much as a TT could, so its more reliable for the engine. Hope that helps

 

APS is what i'm talking about. I don't consider TN as turbo. Also, once you going for turbo, it's also recommend to rebuild your engine; that is when the cost jump up. Easy passing the 10K mark.

 

turbonetics uses a turbocharger, not a turbonator........I don't understand what your malfunction is man ......turbonetics is just as much a turbo kit as any other turbo kit out there

and since when do you have to rebuild? There are plenty of people running stock engines even with twin setups.

 

Both do the same thing yet get driven by different manners:
Supercharger - Mechanically driven - always boosting - no lag - reduced hp gain due to power drain by being driven

Turbo - Exhaust driven - only boosting under load - lag (reduced by going to two smaller turbos instead of one big one) - recommend I.C.

I would go with TT, but make your own decision.

 

hahahaha.... ok..run at stock as you wish. Let me know when your engine blow up so i can laugh my a.s.s off in your face.

 

hey, I'm just saying, the majority of your comments are way off base...you're the one who looks like an ***, not me.

 

supercharge....turbocharge...... they're both very good, both very reliable.... make sure you don't boost it more then what';s rec by the factory and chances are you won;t have a problem..... now if you want bigger gains, turbo is the way to go, if you want less maintance.... then supercfharge it..... make your decision....

 

since when is maintenance any less with a supercharger?

you still have to clean the air filter and change the oil....what makes a turbo so much more special to require more maintenance? Hmm...change the oil, clean the air filter.........sounds the same to me!


you freaking guys are killing me. If you have no experience with either one, don't post. Simple as that.