~Turbo Systems~
02-02-2006, 08:10 PM
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No neeeed... would be nice though! 
Depends on what your looking for... if your a straight line guy... GET the converter!!! You dont wanna be like me and boosting and it flowing nice and cute to the next gear 
FOR ME... I dont want one right now at all... the massive torque hit between shifts on a small autocross course can send me backwards VERY easily!!!
its gonna be your own choice and what not... im going to be slightly above 400whp (hopefully)... with a trans cooler for the racing... YES most Greddy TT Z's will walk me in a straight line... but my rear wheels look like this...
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LOL So I dont get the amount of grip in the straights as you might want...
so it ranges person to person!
Depends on what your looking for... if your a straight line guy... GET the converter!!! You dont wanna be like me and boosting and it flowing nice and cute to the next gear FOR ME... I dont want one right now at all... the massive torque hit between shifts on a small autocross course can send me backwards VERY easily!!!
its gonna be your own choice and what not... im going to be slightly above 400whp (hopefully)... with a trans cooler for the racing... YES most Greddy TT Z's will walk me in a straight line... but my rear wheels look like this...
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LOL
So I dont get the amount of grip in the straights as you might want... so it ranges person to person!
02-02-2006, 10:09 PM
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hmm im just worried about the whole deal about the car breaking on me...im putting everything i have into this car and afraid im gonna expierence problems down the road..which i hope i dont but is a good possibility...should i do bolt ons or FI i just want sumthing nice and make alot of power, yes i race alot and yea i want the best but also dont want my car to be in the shop b/c of sumthing stupid or anything in that field...
02-03-2006, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MFAnello350
hmm im just worried about the whole deal about the car breaking on me...im putting everything i have into this car and afraid im gonna expierence problems down the road..which i hope i dont but is a good possibility...should i do bolt ons or FI i just want sumthing nice and make alot of power, yes i race alot and yea i want the best but also dont want my car to be in the shop b/c of sumthing stupid or anything in that field...
Let me know if I can be of any help.
02-04-2006, 12:05 PM
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your helping me alot its just things that go through my head...tryin to decide for what is best for me and the car...a friend of mine told me to do motor work instead,cams,camshafts,bored out engine...etc....idk too much about that but another Z owner told me to supercharge it...i really dont know much but i THINK i would do a vortech if i had to...he said to watch out for Turbo lag and the turbo vaccum?? i know supercharger is right off the belts but still....i wanna know as much as i can b4 spring time and MraTurbo...sorry i havent called u back..been really busy over here wit sckool....my appologies...
02-05-2006, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MFAnello350
Mraturbo- will do on that,....anything i should watch out for? maybe turtbo lag?
02-05-2006, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MFAnello350
what about the APS systems??
02-06-2006, 04:05 AM
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I have an APS TT I have no lag at all. I hit full boost at 3k. If you have this kit installed at a aps dealer or unichip tuner they can tune it so you hit full boost below 3k. I have 14k on stock bottom and the car runs great. There are shops near you that can take care of install and tune.
02-06-2006, 05:58 AM
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The APS TT is a nice kit as well, with a bit more lag than the JWT (it is noticable) but both these (APS & JWT) TT kits are much better in the lag department than most.
Originally Posted by captj3
I have an APS TT I have no lag at all. I hit full boost at 3k. If you have this kit installed at a aps dealer or unichip tuner they can tune it so you hit full boost below 3k. I have 14k on stock bottom and the car runs great. There are shops near you that can take care of install and tune.
on a TT setup, you won't have lag. Even on the ST setup I drove, the lag was minimal. The Z is much different that most cars. Your buddy is referencing a 4 cylinder with a somewhat large turbo where you get a wait, wait, wait, OK NOW BOOST feeling. The Z is not like that even with a single turbo. The VQ has good power downlow and spools a turbo(s) very quickly
02-06-2006, 03:43 PM
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I'd have to agree there on both parts. I doubt the JWT TT has noticably less lag than the APS TT. You must have an extremely sensitive *** to be able to feel that...
Id have to also agree that the ST kits aren't very far behind the TT in the lag department at all. I hit full boost at about 3200 rpms with the TN kit, and I understand that the APS ST hits maybe 100-200 rpms sooner. The turbonetics 60-1 hits *very* hard when boost hits, though. I think I actually prefer it to the smoother (and more boring, imo) power delivery of the TT's.
Id have to also agree that the ST kits aren't very far behind the TT in the lag department at all. I hit full boost at about 3200 rpms with the TN kit, and I understand that the APS ST hits maybe 100-200 rpms sooner. The turbonetics 60-1 hits *very* hard when boost hits, though. I think I actually prefer it to the smoother (and more boring, imo) power delivery of the TT's.
02-06-2006, 07:00 PM
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Cool........... everyone is entitled to their opinion. I on the other hand HATE turbo lag, the less the better. And, yes, weather you like it or not, the lag difference is noticeable.
even the slightest lag can prove big dividends on the track (especially a real road racing track).
even the slightest lag can prove big dividends on the track (especially a real road racing track).
02-06-2006, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
Cool........... everyone is entitled to their opinion. I on the other hand HATE turbo lag, the less the better. And, yes, weather you like it or not, the lag difference is noticeable. even the slightest lag can prove big dividends on the track (especially a real road racing track).
even the slightest lag can prove big dividends on the track (especially a real road racing track).
Again, I put my car up against a JWT setup any day.
Even if the lag difference is as notable as you state, if it meant coming to your shop for an install, I'll pass.
The JWT is a fine kit, just not as complete as VRT would want you to believe.
OMG, look at all that turbo lag - I mean 300wtq at 2300 rpms and over 400wtq at 3250, I just don't know how I will manage
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02-06-2006, 08:14 PM
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I do not know why you are sooo combative 
Relax man.
Cool, sounds great, bring your car from MN. to any, or all of the track days we attend and you will see for yourself. In fact let me know if there is any way I can help you out with doing that (I would LOVE to). Until then try being a little less argumentative, nobody is out to get you...or your well put together TT kit........I promise .Hahaha!
Relax man. Cool, sounds great, bring your car from MN. to any, or all of the track days we attend and you will see for yourself. In fact let me know if there is any way I can help you out with doing that (I would LOVE to). Until then try being a little less argumentative, nobody is out to get you...or your well put together TT kit........I promise .Hahaha!
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02-06-2006, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
I do not know why you are sooo combative Relax man.
Cool, sounds great, bring your car from MN. to any, or all of the track days we attend and you will see for yourself. In fact let me know if there is any way I can help you out with doing that (I would LOVE to). Until then try being a little less argumentative, nobody is out to get you...or your well put together TT kit........I promise .Hahaha!
Relax man. Cool, sounds great, bring your car from MN. to any, or all of the track days we attend and you will see for yourself. In fact let me know if there is any way I can help you out with doing that (I would LOVE to). Until then try being a little less argumentative, nobody is out to get you...or your well put together TT kit........I promise .Hahaha!