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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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hay guys i need your suggestion on this

that what the engine contain CP pistons stock size, crower rods, ARP main stud and head stud.

i bout an long-block from NY and i found out today that the sleeve are damaged have scratch but the piston in good condition and i need to get new rings for them.

what should i do???

should i rebuilt this engine ( getting new sleeve or over bore sleeve and change the piston size from stock to .020)

or should i get piston's , rods and ARP main-head stud out of that engine to my stock engine.

which one do you guy's thinks it's worth it???
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 03:23 AM
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yeah just recuild it
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 05:45 AM
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if the sleeves are scratched, I can't see how the pistons are in perfect condition and just need new rings. take the parts out an inspect the crap out of them, or take 'em to a pro shop to have them do the work.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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How old are you? Every post/thread by you is a joke. You don't know how to TYPE PROPER ENGLISH in complete sentences, nor do you know how to actually spell. I laugh everytime I see you post up a new thread or a post in general.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AFitchTLS
How old are you? Every post/thread by you is a joke. You don't know how to TYPE PROPER ENGLISH in complete sentences, nor do you know how to actually spell. I laugh everytime I see you post up a new thread or a post in general.

Don't be to hard on him. The english language is fast becoming a "foreign" language. Most people do not write correctly never mind speak correctly. Just another sign-o-the-times.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 06:20 AM
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Ouch, that was painful to read. I think these are the Cliff Notes: Stock bore aftermarket pistons with scratches in the sleeves. Should he replace the sleeve or overbore. It sounds like something is seriously wrong because these motors don't scratch sleeves unless you busted a ringland. Reguardless just get overbore pistons(I would suggest the Extreme Duty pistons from Sharif at Forged Internals) and reassemble the shortblock.

PS-Have fun ordering the bearings. It is a pain in the butt and it's obvious you aren't the best at communicating in English(or should I say Engrish).
Originally Posted by 350z-900whp
hay guys i need your suggestion on this

that what the engine contain CP pistons stock size, crower rods, ARP main stud and head stud.

i bout an long-block from NY and i found out today that the sleeve are damaged have scratch but the piston in good condition and i need to get new rings for them.

what should i do???

should i rebuilt this engine ( getting new sleeve or over bore sleeve and change the piston size from stock to .020)

or should i get piston's , rods and ARP main-head stud out of that engine to my stock engine.

which one do you guy's thinks it's worth it???
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 350z-900whp
hay guys i need your suggestion on this

that what the engine contain CP pistons stock size, crower rods, ARP main stud and head stud.

i bout an long-block from NY and i found out today that the sleeve are damaged have scratch but the piston in good condition and i need to get new rings for them.

what should i do???

should i rebuilt this engine ( getting new sleeve or over bore sleeve and change the piston size from stock to .020)

or should i get piston's , rods and ARP main-head stud out of that engine to my stock engine.

which one do you guy's thinks it's worth it???
Have you Taken it to a machine shop to verfiy if the parts can be saved? Or PM me and we can help. If you have scratches and striations, you need to replace at least the pistons and rings for sure. I would bet the crank and heads are also damaged. Usually when a motor is damaged like a bearing gets destroyed, the oil travels with small particles throughout and damages all, pistons, crank, heads, bearings, and even the cylinder walls. If this is the case it is very hard to work with these parts again for they won't have the integrity needed to make real power in the future.

We can help if you need assistance however it will cost some significant $$$ for new parts and the rebuild..

Goodluck.

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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today i will take the engine to machine shop. they will check the engine for me to see who big the damage is.

about the piston's, why did i say they are in good condition because all side's of the piston's are smooth.

i have some picture's of the engine but i couldn't post them?? could any one help me with this, when i try to post them it say's the picture's are over-size??
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 350z-900whp
today i will take the engine to machine shop. they will check the engine for me to see who big the damage is.

about the piston's, why did i say they are in good condition because all side's of the piston's are smooth.

i have some picture's of the engine but i couldn't post them?? could any one help me with this, when i try to post them it say's the picture's are over-size??
go to www.photobucket.com
start up an account (free) and post pics there, then copy and paste the url to the forum page and the pics will be available to us
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 350z-900whp
hay guys i need your suggestion on this

that what the engine contain CP pistons stock size, crower rods, ARP main stud and head stud.

i bout an long-block from NY and i found out today that the sleeve are damaged have scratch but the piston in good condition and i need to get new rings for them.

what should i do???

should i rebuilt this engine ( getting new sleeve or over bore sleeve and change the piston size from stock to .020)

or should i get piston's , rods and ARP main-head stud out of that engine to my stock engine.

which one do you guy's thinks it's worth it???
first, find out how extensive the damage is to the exisiting built block...
if you can take out the scratches with an overbore of .020, you can salvage the block..or you can even have it sleeved...if you need to sell that block, let me know, i may buy it from you...

if you have a motor in your current ride, even if you were to build it, you would need to clean up the cylinders with a .020 overbore, thus requiring .020 oversized pistons..so unfortunately your pistons that are stock size may now become paperweights...
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
first, find out how extensive the damage is to the exisiting built block...
if you can take out the scratches with an overbore of .020, you can salvage the block..or you can even have it sleeved...if you need to sell that block, let me know, i may buy it from you...

if you have a motor in your current ride, even if you were to build it, you would need to clean up the cylinders with a .020 overbore, thus requiring .020 oversized pistons..so unfortunately your pistons that are stock size may now become paperweights...
We have some blocks if you need one.

Let me know with a PM.

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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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thank for helping guy's

do any one else have any idea
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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If I were you I would talk to either Michael from VRT he knows his sh*t....or speak with Sharif at Forged Internals. These two guys are going to tell it to you like it is and help you with the process so that you know and understand what is going on and why.
My .02 is to rebuild the whole block for a lot more power than you will ever use. That way you know it is good for what you are going to run.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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thanks Navygolf13

i will check with VRT
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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I've been biting my tongue, but I will be officially announcing the start of our company, builtZmotors

I'll give all the details ASAP, website will be up soon, and I will be a vendor on this site...Sharif is definately the man, I am working closely with him on this developing project...much more to come soon (teaser)
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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off topic, but do you happen to have the engine sitting at the shop of dan of danstoy?
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by daytona350z
off topic, but do you happen to have the engine sitting at the shop of dan of danstoy?
not sure if this question is addressed to me, if so, i'll answer...no
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by daytona350z
off topic, but do you happen to have the engine sitting at the shop of dan of danstoy?
yes, who is it???
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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the cylinders are harder than the piston material. typically you can get away with a damaged piston and still have a good cylinder. the fact that you said the piston is still good but the cylinder scratched is weird. how are the main bearings? no metal should come in contact with the cylinder, unless shot out the oil squirter or shot out from the main bearing saddles.
no hole in the block right? not easy to scratch a cylinder and not harm a piston.
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i don't know what do you mean by main bearings?? but yes, there is no hole in the block.
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