Hi all:

In order to put together a cohesive HP package with the Vortech, I've come up with the following so far:

HKS Hi Power Dual TI
Motordyne 5/16 Spacer
Crawford Cats


Any other things I can do before I get the SC? As I understand testpipes + Vortech are a no-no, so I have the HFC listed. How will the SC effect the noise of my exhaust?

Soon enough haha =/

Thanks guys,
Ravi

 

Thought you were going ST!!

 

Why are test pipes and vortech a no-no? I'm running gutted random tech's, no problems

 

i recall someone saying lack of backpressure was harmful with them, but i have no first hand knowledge of it yet.

 

Why the hell do people think test pipes will hurt any thing with a SC . A motor is an air pump . The faster you can get rid of the exhaust , the more air you can pump in . I had Crawford cats , RT cat ,gutted RT cats, and test pipes . I made more power with the test pipes and lower boost than with cats and higher boost .

 

Mine is working just fine with test pipes. I'm running the stock 3.33 with a injen TD and Im hitting 8psi everytime.

 

That's amazing? I could have sworn I've read numerous accounts of TP's causing lower hp/tq numbers on the Vortech setup?

BTW I'd like to also add the Crawford Headers to the list. Looking to safely yet effectively make at least 400whp on my Z.

Chris, still in the limbo, but due to carb reasons and how long I might have the car the SC might be a better bet for me.

Thanks everyone, this will be my first time steppping into FI--I've been reading this forum for two years though ahha.

Ravi

 

Well Ravi ...

I am gonna be the first to say this here. A Centrifugal SC will take a lot away from the GQ side of your car.

Essentially, it sounds like you are running a small dustbuster or hoover under the hood. Although cool with gearheads here ... if you truly think about it, and think about your cars overall design and image .. it doesn't fly.

I myself had a Vortech but never installed it .... I was ready to have that nagging whine that comes along with it.

Do me a favor and think this over .... I know CARB is a big deal to you ... if it is ... keep up the good work .. and get JWT's TT in the next year when it finally gets certified.

Jim

 

You turbo guys never quit do you...one after the other , just cant help them selves .

Maybe he doesnt want a TT
maybe it is his first FI car and wants to learn and a SC is a great place to start .
Carb probably is importent to him
No tell telling when any of the TT kits will be
carb legal . They keep saying soon . But it maybe another year or two....maybe never

SORRY RAVI

For taking your thread off subject.....OF HOW TO GET READY FOR A SC......NOT WHAT KIT TO CHOOSE..TT or SC

 

Ravi - I THINK U may be confusing the Vortech with the Stillen S/C. I've spoken with some Stillen guys & they experienced a loss of boost ( due to reduced backpressure ) when they installed their test pipes. After they reinstalled their cats ( stock & high flow ) the boost came back up - something to do with the Stillen FMU, I recall.

Bill - I give up arguing with the turbo guys!! Kinda like the old "Ford vs Chevy" debate - they've both got a place in the world so just go with what YOU want ( after all, who's paying for it?? )
I WILL step out & give turbos credit that IF I wanted to make max power then I'd run turbo(s) ( still MIGHT end up with twins ). My biggest concern is getting the power to the ground & after hearing all the problems the turbo folks R having then perhaps the gradual ramp-up of the centrifugal Vortech is the answer??

Gene

 

not all Centrifugal SC are loud. the HKS is very quite going to cost a bit more and may be hard to find now but you wont have the loud rattel and woosh sound

 

Im running Vortech with alphas,TPs,Borla,3.12,MD 5/16,---Now @ 372.85 @343.30. More tuning to be done but am happy with the power band and its FUN to drive. I went S/C cuz all Iv installed have been T/Ns----Apples and Oranges as it should be. Point is Im Happy. Am doing a over Boost fix on a TN now and basically having to take the whole unit out.UGH ! Both have Pros and Cons and this petty bickering needs to stop. This should be fun ,,,Not a phallic symbol.-----Kinda plagerizing from Booger. When I was young I had to listen to the Ford Chev bashing, Now that Im old I dont give a Sh****t

 

If a Turbo guy wants to come in and give some help on the subject of the thread...great !!! The more the merrier and the more all of us can learn .

But there are a hand full of guys on this forum that just cant help them selves . ANd have to come into a thread about a SC and boast about how much better his turbo kit is , trying to sell a certain turbo kit , or just to rag on a SC . And if they do...Im going to put my .02 in . It just gets F-cking old

And Jim's comment about running a dustbuster or hoover...now that is funny as hell , as was the one about a SC taking away from the GQ side of the car . The guy's head has swelled enough to alter his thinking . You know that little CURP a turbo makes...now that...to me...sounds like you have a little Chipmonk under the hood trying to get out . And if your trying to race from a dig...its really cool to just sit there and spin the tires while a SC jumps out in front by 50 yards . Its really cool to brag that the only way to get traction in a race...is to race from a 50mph roll . Its really cool to brag you have a TT and then get in the car to drive off and the thing smokes as he drives off . Its really cool to brag to your buddies about your TT car...get in it to show off and spin away and over boost it and throw a rod through the block [ stock block ]

GQ is for the guy living in the big city and is a metrosexual . And that is a guy that is on the fence about becoming a *** , transexual , or a cross dresser . I dont know one car guy that is worried about being GQ !!!!!!!!!

The above was just to show the turbo guys how stupid there comments can sound

 

We should keep the petty bickering out of this.

I agree with Booger, that there's a guy who wants to go with an SC and is looking for help. Not to hear someone's opinion of how it sounds.

We're all here for the love of the Z.

Let's not let this board see the same fate I've seen in the guitar world where everyone's a hater.

 

Maybe I'm not reading this properly... but I'd def consider myself GQ...far from transexual and sh*t I'm absolutely in love with women, LOL.

I'm not certain what the bickering is about but Jim as well as my new SC buddies bring valid points. Carb is important to me, and so is overall power, etc. At the end of the day I feel like I'm making an informed decision and no matter what I'm a car head despite liking to dress well (dunno what that has to do with anything to begin with).

I do stuff if *I* like it. In this situation as cool as "having a turbo" would be I don't know if I want to swing it financially right now, or if I want to dump that much into my Z. Basically I've done a lot of homework and to me from a safety standpoint, the Vortech stands out.

Ahh...well.. the thread is OT now..but still I'd love to learn some more about this setup.

Still GQ...sheeesh.
Ravi

 

Sorry Ravi....Like I said . Just trying to let the turbo guys know how stupid thier comments can be . I didnt even notice your screen name or sig .

A SC is a great choice and I am willing to help if you have any questions or problems

 

If you care about Carb/Reliability why not Stillen ??? Just wondering!

 

Thanks for coming back on topic guys--we're a mature bunch on the FI forum--lets share our knowledge so we don't have members out there thinking 700rwhp on a stock block is reliable for 100k miles.

Stillen is awesome, but aesthetically I dont want to use their IMHO ugly hood. Not to mention power output seems somewhat anemic compared to the Vortech at similar boost settings. I like the fact that with the above listed mods and a good tune I should easily be at 400rwhp.

Gene--thanks also for everythinig and your help even though we've just "met." LOL Look forward to your build as well as Bills, esp that intercooler project (gasps!!)

Bill--you're a valuable asset to the Vortech crowd. Thanks for chiming in and helping a new guy (first time to have an FI car). Yeah it's part of my SN and I assure you nothing more--at the end of the day or at the stoplight I'm as much of a car guy if not more than 98% of the population out there hahahaha...

ravi

 

Ravi - Just as Bill said, feel free to PM me ( or post here ) with any questions but since Bill's already got his Vortech up 'n running' he might be the most knowledgeable.

Gene

 

Ravi, I did Crawford headers back a few mods. ago... tuff job, did make some good gains however. Run race pipes also.
I don't regret my Vortech choice at all!
kevin G.