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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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As previously discussed, our team at VRT and the Mad Scientist at JWT have been working on a nice addition and upgrade to our already proven family of TT performance cars. Oh yes - 700 WHP at ONLY 14 PSI. We will make 800 WHP within weeks after a few tweaks.

Sounds Stupid yet Oh Sooo Real. My G35C was our first test car. Of course, we are using full GT28s with a 55 MM compressor (Jim Wolf calls our smaller GTs the 530s and these the 700s), a much larger fuel pump, injectors, crazy clutch, cams, and more, but we are proud at our performance thus far. I am hoping these turbos can make at least 850 WHP. And yes the car idles and can smoke the tires at 100 MPH on the freeway.

SADLY - We did a 20-PSI run today and simply broke the Dyno. It can only hold 800 FT/LBS of torque and the 20 PSI run crashed the Dynopak not to mention burned my racing clutch. We have replaced the clutch and will rerun the car within weeks at 20 PSI after recalibrating the dyno and trying the run in 6th gear. We will see what we get.

Pretty Fun and still making full boost at around 3000 RPM. A little more lag than the smaller GTs but Not Much. I will track the car at about 11 PSI and around 550 WHP. That will be plenty to pass the new ZO6 on the straight-aways.

Be back soon this week for more power. Check out our newest video at:
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Awesome improvement with the larger turbos. Airflow is everything. You are going to see a lot engines soon making 700-850whp at 12-17psi.

Dynopaks have never been good at holding or measuring massive power. Time for a Dyno Dynamics dyno. They can ramp up 1200whp, and steady state hold 600whp with just a single eddy current retarder. Twin retarders can hold 1200whp steady state, and measure 2400whp.
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Awesome improvement with the larger turbos. Airflow is everything. You are going to see a lot engines soon making 700-850whp at 12-17psi.

Dynopaks have never been good at holding or measuring massive power. Time for a Dyno Dynamics dyno. They can ramp up 1200whp, and steady state hold 600whp with just a single eddy current retarder. Twin retarders can hold 1200whp steady state, and measure 2400whp.
Yep,

We will see how much we can pull out of the Dynopak then Jump Dynos. Just have to work all of the bugs out first. But yes you are correct, airflow - much more airflow and without much lag at all.

Question, how much power can the Arias 9:1 Pistons hold? Have a nice day Sharif.

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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Friggin nuts Mike! I can't wait to see it in person this weekend.
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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i talked to scott today and he told me all about it mike!!!! he also said you had a pass of near 700rwhp and 800torque!!!! and the stock exhaust, hahhahaa. we gunna get you hooked up when you get back from germany. grats mike, can't wait to see when you get finished this week.
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Originally Posted by mraturbo
Oh yes - 700 WHP at ONLY 14 PSI. We will make 800 WHP this week after a few tweaks.

I hate to tell you but that run was a ~610 Rwhp run. That spike from 5800-5950 Rpm's was something other then a good dyno run. Either the clutch slipped and grabbed to give a false peak or something else happened. NO car w/o a nice Nitrous shot is going to gain ~74 Whp in <2000 Rpm
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mraturbo

Question, how much power can the Arias 9:1 Pistons hold? Have a nice day Sharif.

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Extreme Duty Arias Pistons can hold just about anything you can throw at it. You'll probably snap your crank before you break the piston. :

Nobody has explored the limits of the Arias Standard Duty pistons, but I wouldnt recommend them for power levels above 600whp...step up to the Extreme Duty.
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Awesome improvement with the larger turbos. Airflow is everything. You are going to see a lot engines soon making 700-850whp at 12-17psi.

Dynopaks have never been good at holding or measuring massive power. Time for a Dyno Dynamics dyno. They can ramp up 1200whp, and steady state hold 600whp with just a single eddy current retarder. Twin retarders can hold 1200whp steady state, and measure 2400whp.

me me me, i wanna be next, lol.
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Originally Posted by mraturbo
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Question, how much power can the Arias 9:1 Pistons hold? Have a nice day Sharif.

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Funny this is a topic of dicussion, just yesterday I just spoke with a very well known tuner/builder who has seen many a turbo piston...his take on the Arias Extreme Duty Pistons, is that they will hold 1400-1600wheel hp...not sure where he gets these numbers from, but he stated he has never seen a turbo piston so overbuilt for strength!
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Originally Posted by mraturbo
And yes the car idles and can smoke the tires at 100 MPH on the freeway.

I can vouch for the 100mph burn out as I was behind him in my Tahoe following on the freeway. Was pretty cool to see. That car is a monster. The cool thing is you would NEVER know by looking at it!
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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CONGRATS!!!! thats awsome VRT... you guys have come along way from the bashing haters on the forum to a complete reputable company with the numbers to prove. Congrats to the clark stepler team also he is great
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyle(Houston)
I hate to tell you but that run was a ~610 Rwhp run. That spike from 5800-5950 Rpm's was something other then a good dyno run. Either the clutch slipped and grabbed to give a false peak or something else happened. NO car w/o a nice Nitrous shot is going to gain ~74 Whp in <2000 Rpm
No problem Kyle. When the Dyno isn't having difficulties and the clutch burning up...We will clean that dyno up the next run to be NICE and CLEAN without SLIPS or NOS. We will get a SOLID 800+ WHP within weeks. No Doubt.

As mentioned in the original post, still in progress yet thanks for noticing. Thanks for the love NISSANSOURCE, we have certainly seen plenty of haters since our launch that is for certain.

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Originally Posted by mraturbo
No problem Kyle. When the Dyno isn't having difficulties and the clutch burning up...We will clean that dyno up the next run to be NICE and CLEAN without SLIPS or NOS. We will get a SOLID 800+ WHP this week. No Doubt.
Awesome...can't wait to see a nice clean dyno run
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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And what do you use to slow down Mr. A? Twin anchors and a parachute?
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Post a video of the 100mph burnout, would love to see that... I was in my friends ZR 1 a few years back and he was able to smoke 'em at 75mph, I thought that was the greatest thing.
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Originally Posted by Anthony Mantovani
Post a video of the 100mph burnout, would love to see that... I was in my friends ZR 1 a few years back and he was able to smoke 'em at 75mph, I thought that was the greatest thing.
I'll film Mike. We can film a 180mph run too!
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Nice power, but it reminds me of the last dyno graph I saw that had a huge mystery spike right in the middle. That 60whp spike in the last 200rpms isn't right. No reason you should put that as the final power #s on the sheet and advertise them...

Nice car, but its not making near the power you're leading people to believe it is.
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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Why do the RPM's on the dyno only go to 6000RPM....you don't make power at higher RPM????? You don't go above 5800RPM's???
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Originally Posted by taurran
Nice power, but it reminds me of the last dyno graph I saw that had a huge mystery spike right in the middle. That 60whp spike in the last 200rpms isn't right. No reason you should put that as the final power #s on the sheet and advertise them...

Nice car, but its not making near the power you're leading people to believe it is.
Actually taurran, I was there and the car actually made WAY more power than what was posted here. That's what maxed out the Dyno. I think that was the only run they could print after before the Dyno had to be reset. As Mike mentioned, the clutch was slipping. That spike is more than likely a result of the clutch catching and revealing what kind of power was 'actually' being sent to the rear wheels at the last minute. Tells me that if the clutch was slipping during that run, then the numbers we see there are probably lower than the engine was actually producing.

Thought everyone might like to hear from someone who was actually there.
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Eagle1
And what do you use to slow down Mr. A? Twin anchors and a parachute?
REAL BRAKES.

AP RACING 6 Piston fronts with 14.25s/ 4 Piston Rear. Track Proven and real sh..t as we have put them to the test track after track after track. Just like the ones I have been trying to sell you! OH YOU SAY YOU WANT SOME...

DONE....

FYI: We will get a clean dyno this week after Clark figures how to get the Dynopak to accept more than 800 FT/LBS of torque. That is what we exceeded at 20 PSI. And we will get video posted of the runs and a 100 MPH burnout as well LOL...Vision619 you can film from your Z.

Check out our newest video at:
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