utech base maps and turbonetics kit
Ok.. i now these are stupid questions, and i have already searched and found nothing. I am installing my turbonetics single turbo kit right now, and i have a utech that i going to use for management, so do i need to get my ecu reflashed? I have not sent it off yet , and since it only needs to go from my shop to the dyno, i was wondering if one of the preset base maps would work for my car?has any one tried this yet, or is everyone just waiting until you got the dyno to tune and install it.any feedback would be great, i would love to sell this reflash to some one who can use it ....
No need to flash the ECU since the Utec will have to be tuned either way. Contact Turboxs and they can email you a MAP to help get started Jermaine@turboxs.com
Originally Posted by 2slo2bfurious
If I were you I wouldn't get my ecu flashed and just get it only the dyno and tune the utec with the stock ecu. I've been having issues with using the utec and flashed ecu.
There have been temperature compensation module issues with UTEC, but I assume that will be ironed out in the next update (which I hope will be windows based).
Originally Posted by Alberto
^^Why-at WOT the UTEC overrides the ECU, makes no sense....
you dont get it, the UTEC has control at that point, the ECU is totally out of the picture.
The way the UTEC works is it takes over control of engine management from the ECU at a specified (programmed) point. With FI you use a MAP sensor and program the UTEC for speed density mode. At the programmed boost level the UTEC takes over from the ECU completely. So if you are having problems with it at WOT then its probably the tune but has nothing to do with the ECU flash.
The way the UTEC works is it takes over control of engine management from the ECU at a specified (programmed) point. With FI you use a MAP sensor and program the UTEC for speed density mode. At the programmed boost level the UTEC takes over from the ECU completely. So if you are having problems with it at WOT then its probably the tune but has nothing to do with the ECU flash.
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The ECU closes the throttle 10% after a few seconds of WOT (or something to that effect). I don't think that the UTEC "fixes" that. Apart from that there might be a few other things a TS limited flash does and the Utec doesn't...
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Originally Posted by 2slo2bfurious
I honestly wish I knew what really was going on, but the car run's fine... a little rich, but fine at wot without the utec in. Then I put it in and occasionally at wot it just dies. Before I flashed the ecu, and just ran it with na, it worked great. Still trying to figure out what's going on, but I think tuning from the stock ecu would be better because I think its a problem between the two....
Originally Posted by 35ounces
you dont get it, the UTEC has control at that point, the ECU is totally out of the picture.
The way the UTEC works is it takes over control of engine management from the ECU at a specified (programmed) point. With FI you use a MAP sensor and program the UTEC for speed density mode. At the programmed boost level the UTEC takes over from the ECU completely. So if you are having problems with it at WOT then its probably the tune but has nothing to do with the ECU flash.
The way the UTEC works is it takes over control of engine management from the ECU at a specified (programmed) point. With FI you use a MAP sensor and program the UTEC for speed density mode. At the programmed boost level the UTEC takes over from the ECU completely. So if you are having problems with it at WOT then its probably the tune but has nothing to do with the ECU flash.
Then I set all values to ecu and its still the same deal. My tune might be a little off since I'm still learning how to do this all, but I doubt its that. Once I get a log I'll post it up to see if anyone can help....
Originally Posted by Alberto
It sounds like how my TB issue started. Does the car just die, then you turn it on, and you get no throttle response? Or it may die, you restart and its fine, the problem will come and go. Try the TB reset procedures on technosquares webiste and see if it helps. Is the car throwing a code? Have you checked it? Few guys have had this issue now, me included it sucks....could be a bad coincidence you just installed your UTEC and it started, mine started after a turbo install.
Originally Posted by westpak
No need to flash the ECU since the Utec will have to be tuned either way. Contact Turboxs and they can email you a MAP to help get started Jermaine@turboxs.com
Originally Posted by 35ounces
Yeah great idea except he never reponds!
Originally Posted by 35ounces
Yeah great idea except he never reponds!
Give me a call during the day with access to the car so we can try and troubleshoot the issue.
Thanks,
Jermaine
Last edited by BlackTuner; Mar 30, 2006 at 04:39 PM.
Originally Posted by Alberto
It sounds like how my TB issue started. Does the car just die, then you turn it on, and you get no throttle response? Or it may die, you restart and its fine, the problem will come and go. Try the TB reset procedures on technosquares webiste and see if it helps. Is the car throwing a code? Have you checked it? Few guys have had this issue now, me included it sucks....could be a bad coincidence you just installed your UTEC and it started, mine started after a turbo install.
The only benefit I can see from getting the ECU reflashed is to tune your idle as well as your lower rpms. I have no experience with UTEC's, but I believe they only kick in at WOT, but if you raise the fuel pressure as well as add larger injectors, the car will need to be adjusted to compensate for the changes.
Can someone confirm this?
Can someone confirm this?
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