Stillen stage 4
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From: so cali 909-951-626
I don't think you will hit over 9psi with stage 4.
And with this particular blower, 8-9psi is already pushing the limits of it's efficiency. At this point and at higher boost, heat soak becomes the issue. Most people with the SVT SC mustangs swap to a kenne bell unit. Their blower is not the exact same as the stillen, but fairly close in size and efficiency. If you combat the heat soak associated with higher boost, then putting a new pulley and going more boost is ok. But this blower is peaking at 8-9psi.
And with this particular blower, 8-9psi is already pushing the limits of it's efficiency. At this point and at higher boost, heat soak becomes the issue. Most people with the SVT SC mustangs swap to a kenne bell unit. Their blower is not the exact same as the stillen, but fairly close in size and efficiency. If you combat the heat soak associated with higher boost, then putting a new pulley and going more boost is ok. But this blower is peaking at 8-9psi.
nice, which boost gauge are you running? I would like to get one installed before I do stage 4 so I can see what I hit before and after. I was just thinking about getting a single a-pillar pod or one of those cf pods that goes on the dash and maybe a 20psi auto meter gauge.
Originally Posted by Tony@Performance
I don't think you will hit over 9psi with stage 4.
And with this particular blower, 8-9psi is already pushing the limits of it's efficiency. At this point and at higher boost, heat soak becomes the issue. Most people with the SVT SC mustangs swap to a kenne bell unit. Their blower is not the exact same as the stillen, but fairly close in size and efficiency. If you combat the heat soak associated with higher boost, then putting a new pulley and going more boost is ok. But this blower is peaking at 8-9psi.
And with this particular blower, 8-9psi is already pushing the limits of it's efficiency. At this point and at higher boost, heat soak becomes the issue. Most people with the SVT SC mustangs swap to a kenne bell unit. Their blower is not the exact same as the stillen, but fairly close in size and efficiency. If you combat the heat soak associated with higher boost, then putting a new pulley and going more boost is ok. But this blower is peaking at 8-9psi.
I have defi d boost gauge...I was told by the installer who test drove my car that I'm close to 10psi....so do you think that something wrong with the gauge and Stillen stage4 cannot get over 9psi....I remember someone (I think Stillen rep) mentioned that people could be seen 8.5~9.5 psi (I could be wrong)...ofcourse I want moore boost but being safe is always been my priority
I just went & test drove the car....awesome pull
...powerband is all the way til 6.5~7K rpm....
very very happy with the kit. I was getting above 9psi on my boost gauge
.....and a little louder from stage 3
...powerband is all the way til 6.5~7K rpm....
very very happy with the kit. I was getting above 9psi on my boost gauge
.....and a little louder from stage 3
Originally Posted by jcarp
I love the stillen but why spend so much money when you can go turbo and have alot more power.
Originally Posted by nateg35
does anyone in here with stage 4 get over 9psi of boost?
By the way, I had my Z dyno'd with the Stage 4 about a month ago on a dynapak. I posted 307 HP and 300 TQ. should point out that I live in Denver, so the altitude kills my #'s. I would expect you'd see much better in most places.
any idea what 307 at your level equates to at sea level? I have no clue what math formula to follow to figure that out, otherwise I would do it.
Also- Is your autometer mechanical or electrical?
Also- Is your autometer mechanical or electrical?
Originally Posted by geezin56
Could be a faulty boost guage (I have an autometer), but I've got a stillen stage 4 sc and am consistently hitting 10psi at WOT. When I first had the Stage 4 installed I was only hitting ~6psi. My fuel pump went out shortly after the install and since having the new one installed I've been up at 10psi.
By the way, I had my Z dyno'd with the Stage 4 about a month ago on a dynapak. I posted 307 HP and 300 TQ. should point out that I live in Denver, so the altitude kills my #'s. I would expect you'd see much better in most places.
By the way, I had my Z dyno'd with the Stage 4 about a month ago on a dynapak. I posted 307 HP and 300 TQ. should point out that I live in Denver, so the altitude kills my #'s. I would expect you'd see much better in most places.
with stage3, I rarely got up to 7 at WOT but with stage4, I'm close to 10psi...will get it dynoed soon...but I think dynapak read about 10% lower than dynojet so you're about 333whp which about right...one other member is getting 343
Originally Posted by nateg35
with stage3, I rarely got up to 7 at WOT but with stage4, I'm close to 10psi...will get it dynoed soon...but I think dynapak read about 10% lower than dynojet so you're about 333whp which about right...one other member is getting 343
Also my boost guage is mechanical, not electrical.
Originally Posted by geezin56
Actually, my first post had an error. The #'s I referenced were from a dynojet not dynapak. I also dyno'd before the fuel pump went out on a Mustang dyno. don''t have the #'s in front of me, but they were close to 294HP and 287 TQ. Unfortunately, I don't know the correction to estimate what my #'s would be at sea level. I'm assuming that I'd be in the range of ~330 HP based on what others have said??
Also my boost guage is mechanical, not electrical.
Also my boost guage is mechanical, not electrical.
The 307 on the Dynojet was corrected to sea level. You basically have to take 17% off of that number to get actual power to the wheels at 6000' msl for denver. The dynojet showed the uncorrected numbers at 255 rwhp. The stock Z's that day were getting 233 rwhp corrected for sea level, and 190 - 195 uncorrected rwhp.
I would imagine you would see at least 330 - 340 with the extra boost corrected for sea level(280 uncorrected). We basically lose 2.5 - 3.0 psi up at this altitude. It stinks, basically 30% of the FI boost gets used up just getting our cars to sea level performance.
I was making about 8.2-8.3psi with the stage 4 kit then I added Kinetix high flow cats and lost just about 0.8psi. I am thinking about selling the kit but if I don't I am going to have a new pulley made to get that boost back.
Originally Posted by Starchecker
We basically lose 2.5 - 3.0 psi up at this altitude. It stinks, basically 30% of the FI boost gets used up just getting our cars to sea level performance.
Originally Posted by Tony@Performance
Most people with the SVT SC mustangs swap to a kenne bell unit. Their blower is not the exact same as the stillen, but fairly close in size and efficiency. If you combat the heat soak associated with higher boost, then putting a new pulley and going more boost is ok. But this blower is peaking at 8-9psi.
-Mark
Originally Posted by BlackSpec02
subscribing, loving the stillen threads and feedback on stage 4!!
TONY (and everyone else) I took out my idler pulley on the serpentine belt and am now using a stock sized gator back serpentine belt. That pulley was squealing incesantly and when I replaced it, the new one did the same thing, so I took it out and so far have had no adverse affects, the guys at stillen told me this was an option if the new pulley didnt work. ANYONE ELSE DO THIS?
sorry about the hijack.
TONY (and everyone else) I took out my idler pulley on the serpentine belt and am now using a stock sized gator back serpentine belt. That pulley was squealing incesantly and when I replaced it, the new one did the same thing, so I took it out and so far have had no adverse affects, the guys at stillen told me this was an option if the new pulley didnt work. ANYONE ELSE DO THIS?
sorry about the hijack.
Originally Posted by MulhollandDrive
Stillen now supplies an itty bitty spacer that angles the idler pulley. So far no squeeks.
btw- any way to get a better belt than the gates k040220 for the actual blower.... seems like ive been tearing through a new one every 6-9k miles. Guy at one of the shops said its due to the pressure put on that belt in conjunction with the extreme heat under the hood from the blower.
In the procharger world (FI C5), the gatorback belts are not good. I either get Gates or NAPA. They slip less and last the longest.
Good to hear nice things about Stillen. I'm looking for usable power the roots blower gives.
Good to hear nice things about Stillen. I'm looking for usable power the roots blower gives.


