turbonetics single turbo
#21
Originally Posted by taurran
400whp on a turn key kit - $5,000
Built motor and stage 2 upgrade for 700+whp - $10,000
Not bending turbo piping when going over a speed bump - Priceless
Built motor and stage 2 upgrade for 700+whp - $10,000
Not bending turbo piping when going over a speed bump - Priceless
#23
I've also been researching like mad. My plan is to purchase a base 2003 and mod the hell out of it. First mod : TN ST, especially after seeing that video... holy crap... BRB, gotta go change my pants.
#24
So if you guys are going to say the TN kit is better than the APS then state why. The APS ST kit can get reasonably big power. Beyond what most people will want anyways (500 rwhp). What about the fact that the TN kit seems to blow more motors? My point is i guess to atleast validate opinion with facts. Alberto made a good point but besides him i didnt see very many facts. The APS kit seems safer to me but the TN kit seems to offer more performance.
#25
Originally Posted by gatti-man
So if you guys are going to say the TN kit is better than the APS then state why. The APS ST kit can get reasonably big power. Beyond what most people will want anyways (500 rwhp). What about the fact that the TN kit seems to blow more motors? My point is i guess to atleast validate opinion with facts. Alberto made a good point but besides him i didnt see very many facts. The APS kit seems safer to me but the TN kit seems to offer more performance.
In reality, I really don't care which kit you buy. You can strap a few Turbonators on your intake for all I care.
#26
Adding forced induction to a car that wasnt designed for it is taking a risk! A calulated risk at that. There are a million reasons why people blow motors, not always relating to the turbo kit itself... Some could just be some other factor, but with a stock motor there is little margin for error.
I say o each his own for the kits, but you will not find the kind of customer support like the TN kit... Having MIA and TN on the boards answering questions usually around the clock (i dont even know if he sleeps, probably not with that cute puppy running around)... This alone has made up my mind or peace of mind rather.
Look at the list of turbo kits, their are way more TN kits out there as said above... its like saying that once cigarette is safer than another because its a different brand and there not as popular in this area.
I say o each his own for the kits, but you will not find the kind of customer support like the TN kit... Having MIA and TN on the boards answering questions usually around the clock (i dont even know if he sleeps, probably not with that cute puppy running around)... This alone has made up my mind or peace of mind rather.
Look at the list of turbo kits, their are way more TN kits out there as said above... its like saying that once cigarette is safer than another because its a different brand and there not as popular in this area.
#27
Originally Posted by MI 35th
Adding forced induction to a car that wasnt designed for it is taking a risk! A calulated risk at that. There are a million reasons why people blow motors, not always relating to the turbo kit itself... Some could just be some other factor, but with a stock motor there is little margin for error.
I say o each his own for the kits, but you will not find the kind of customer support like the TN kit... Having MIA and TN on the boards answering questions usually around the clock (i dont even know if he sleeps, probably not with that cute puppy running around)... This alone has made up my mind or peace of mind rather.
Look at the list of turbo kits, their are way more TN kits out there as said above... its like saying that once cigarette is safer than another because its a different brand and there not as popular in this area.
I say o each his own for the kits, but you will not find the kind of customer support like the TN kit... Having MIA and TN on the boards answering questions usually around the clock (i dont even know if he sleeps, probably not with that cute puppy running around)... This alone has made up my mind or peace of mind rather.
Look at the list of turbo kits, their are way more TN kits out there as said above... its like saying that once cigarette is safer than another because its a different brand and there not as popular in this area.
#28
I am trying to help him out. I say this because further to this thread, he is guaranteed to learn a lot more about this setup if he searches (which he is probably not aware of at this point).
Originally Posted by horse110
can u guys just help him out without useless replies like RESEARCH, try to help each other out man u dont want people to give u useless reply when u needed help
#32
Originally Posted by taurran
Yeah, but you don't take into consideration the fact that there are at least 5-10x more Turbonetics ST kits on the roads in the US than APS STs. If you did bother to take that into consideration, I guess the kit doesn't seem "more dangerous", does it?
In reality, I really don't care which kit you buy. You can strap a few Turbonators on your intake for all I care.
In reality, I really don't care which kit you buy. You can strap a few Turbonators on your intake for all I care.
#33
Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
. I think when Stage 1.5, Stage 2 and the water/meth kit drops along with another big announcement that is in the works you are going to see even more Turbonetics powered cars popping up
#34
Originally Posted by gatti-man
I didnt mean it like that i wanted people to actually just use facts. Are there really 5-10 times more tn kits? Looking on our whos fi list its seems about even from aps to tn on posters. I borught up the blown motors to spur discussion on why, not to flame.
#36
TN ST or any other turbo kit are great for power, but they are headache. I am not talking immediate problems , i am talking after driving like 30K miles or more. I have owned many turbo cars coming turbo stock from manufacturer and each one of them had turbo problems when i reached 60K , iam not talking engine problems but the turbo compressor itself did not last, but these are stock turbo cars so what if they are modded? so it all depends on your driving style, how do you use your car, everyday to work or weekend, etc.. and of course on your pocket.
#37
Originally Posted by Dr.G
TN ST or any other turbo kit are great for power, but they are headache. I am not talking immediate problems , i am talking after driving like 30K miles or more. I have owned many turbo cars coming turbo stock from manufacturer and each one of them had turbo problems when i reached 60K , iam not talking engine problems but the turbo compressor itself did not last, but these are stock turbo cars so what if they are modded? so it all depends on your driving style, how do you use your car, everyday to work or weekend, etc.. and of course on your pocket.
#39
Originally Posted by Dr.G
Grow up miaplaya
(a) They have come a LONG way in the last 5 years in terms of reliability
(b) Factory turbos are NOTHING like aftermarket performance turbochargers
(c) With a proper warm up and cool down process turbos will last as long as your motor if maintenance is kept up
(d) Turbonetics has received more then one turbo from a customer for a rebuild with the turbocharger having 150k miles on it and only then it was for a seal that finally went
(e) The precision and balancing that goes into aftermarket turbos in conjuction with the new technology with the bearing section ensures long life much longer then previous units
And that just to name a few. I could ramble on about zero destructive frequencies through VSR testing, etc. But whats the point. How you can even compare modern turbocharger longevity to your antiquated Roots blower is simply comical. Stop being a troll.
Last edited by MIAPLAYA; 04-27-2006 at 03:09 PM.
#40
Eaton roots blower by the way are used by mercedes benz and jaguar and (it is a fact ) the most reliable FI (Supercharged Book by Corky BELL. The last car i had was Audi S4 i do not think turbos evolved that much ..since ...oh maybe They should take you as a consultant engineer in Nissan because i think they are designing a 350z turbocharged and they need somebody like you.