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Old 04-26-2006 | 08:40 PM
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400whp on a turn key kit - $5,000

Built motor and stage 2 upgrade for 700+whp - $10,000

Not bending turbo piping when going over a speed bump - Priceless

Old 04-26-2006 | 10:38 PM
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Im in.
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I've also been researching like mad. My plan is to purchase a base 2003 and mod the hell out of it. First mod : TN ST, especially after seeing that video... holy crap... BRB, gotta go change my pants.
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So if you guys are going to say the TN kit is better than the APS then state why. The APS ST kit can get reasonably big power. Beyond what most people will want anyways (500 rwhp). What about the fact that the TN kit seems to blow more motors? My point is i guess to atleast validate opinion with facts. Alberto made a good point but besides him i didnt see very many facts. The APS kit seems safer to me but the TN kit seems to offer more performance.
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So if you guys are going to say the TN kit is better than the APS then state why. The APS ST kit can get reasonably big power. Beyond what most people will want anyways (500 rwhp). What about the fact that the TN kit seems to blow more motors? My point is i guess to atleast validate opinion with facts. Alberto made a good point but besides him i didnt see very many facts. The APS kit seems safer to me but the TN kit seems to offer more performance.
Yeah, but you don't take into consideration the fact that there are at least 5-10x more Turbonetics ST kits on the roads in the US than APS STs. If you did bother to take that into consideration, I guess the kit doesn't seem "more dangerous", does it?

In reality, I really don't care which kit you buy. You can strap a few Turbonators on your intake for all I care.
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Adding forced induction to a car that wasnt designed for it is taking a risk! A calulated risk at that. There are a million reasons why people blow motors, not always relating to the turbo kit itself... Some could just be some other factor, but with a stock motor there is little margin for error.

I say o each his own for the kits, but you will not find the kind of customer support like the TN kit... Having MIA and TN on the boards answering questions usually around the clock (i dont even know if he sleeps, probably not with that cute puppy running around)... This alone has made up my mind or peace of mind rather.

Look at the list of turbo kits, their are way more TN kits out there as said above... its like saying that once cigarette is safer than another because its a different brand and there not as popular in this area.
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Originally Posted by MI 35th
Adding forced induction to a car that wasnt designed for it is taking a risk! A calulated risk at that. There are a million reasons why people blow motors, not always relating to the turbo kit itself... Some could just be some other factor, but with a stock motor there is little margin for error.

I say o each his own for the kits, but you will not find the kind of customer support like the TN kit... Having MIA and TN on the boards answering questions usually around the clock (i dont even know if he sleeps, probably not with that cute puppy running around)... This alone has made up my mind or peace of mind rather.

Look at the list of turbo kits, their are way more TN kits out there as said above... its like saying that once cigarette is safer than another because its a different brand and there not as popular in this area.
Thanks for the kind words man. I certainly do my best to help out where I can but the real Customer Service Hero at Turbonetics has to be Reggie. That guy makes it his personal mission to help people out. As for opinion everyone has their own choice to make. With 50+ users on this board alone and 4X that number of total kits shipped I'd say the Turbonetics kit is great kit out of box and obviously several people agree. The Stage 1.5 kit that should be dropping soon will contain all the things everyone wanted to add to their kit and more. Not to mention the option of a tailor made water/meth kit for the Z/G that will further increase the safety aspect even at higher boost levels. I'm anxious to get that posted myself. I need to follow up with the tuner who is doing the work but his inital reaction to the universal kit was overwhelmingly positive and knowing that he is the one tailoring the water/meth kit to the Z makes me that much more excited. I think when Stage 1.5, Stage 2 and the water/meth kit drops along with another big announcement that is in the works you are going to see even more Turbonetics powered cars popping up
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I am trying to help him out. I say this because further to this thread, he is guaranteed to learn a lot more about this setup if he searches (which he is probably not aware of at this point).

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can u guys just help him out without useless replies like RESEARCH, try to help each other out man u dont want people to give u useless reply when u needed help
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water/meth kit and FI i cant wait!!
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^ Let me know when you get yours, then I can get mine.
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Originally Posted by taurran
Yeah, but you don't take into consideration the fact that there are at least 5-10x more Turbonetics ST kits on the roads in the US than APS STs. If you did bother to take that into consideration, I guess the kit doesn't seem "more dangerous", does it?

In reality, I really don't care which kit you buy. You can strap a few Turbonators on your intake for all I care.
I didnt mean it like that i wanted people to actually just use facts. Are there really 5-10 times more tn kits? Looking on our whos fi list its seems about even from aps to tn on posters. I borught up the blown motors to spur discussion on why, not to flame.
Old 04-27-2006 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
. I think when Stage 1.5, Stage 2 and the water/meth kit drops along with another big announcement that is in the works you are going to see even more Turbonetics powered cars popping up
Would that be the engine warranty like Stillen???
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Originally Posted by gatti-man
I didnt mean it like that i wanted people to actually just use facts. Are there really 5-10 times more tn kits? Looking on our whos fi list its seems about even from aps to tn on posters. I borught up the blown motors to spur discussion on why, not to flame.
He said APS ST kits. Theres about what 10 APS ST kits on this board? Theres 50+ Turbonetics kits. APS TT kits is different...
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Originally Posted by tomcatm
Would that be the engine warranty like Stillen???
No comment
Old 04-27-2006 | 02:40 PM
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TN ST or any other turbo kit are great for power, but they are headache. I am not talking immediate problems , i am talking after driving like 30K miles or more. I have owned many turbo cars coming turbo stock from manufacturer and each one of them had turbo problems when i reached 60K , iam not talking engine problems but the turbo compressor itself did not last, but these are stock turbo cars so what if they are modded? so it all depends on your driving style, how do you use your car, everyday to work or weekend, etc.. and of course on your pocket.
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Originally Posted by Dr.G
TN ST or any other turbo kit are great for power, but they are headache. I am not talking immediate problems , i am talking after driving like 30K miles or more. I have owned many turbo cars coming turbo stock from manufacturer and each one of them had turbo problems when i reached 60K , iam not talking engine problems but the turbo compressor itself did not last, but these are stock turbo cars so what if they are modded? so it all depends on your driving style, how do you use your car, everyday to work or weekend, etc.. and of course on your pocket.
First of all go back to your Stillen thread. Second of all I have 25k miles on my Turbonetics kit and 40k total miles on my car. No issues. Now go away troll.
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Grow up miaplaya
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Originally Posted by Dr.G
Grow up miaplaya
Go away troll. You have tarnished your reputation to no end on this board. If you knew the first thing about turbochargers you would know that
(a) They have come a LONG way in the last 5 years in terms of reliability
(b) Factory turbos are NOTHING like aftermarket performance turbochargers
(c) With a proper warm up and cool down process turbos will last as long as your motor if maintenance is kept up
(d) Turbonetics has received more then one turbo from a customer for a rebuild with the turbocharger having 150k miles on it and only then it was for a seal that finally went
(e) The precision and balancing that goes into aftermarket turbos in conjuction with the new technology with the bearing section ensures long life much longer then previous units

And that just to name a few. I could ramble on about zero destructive frequencies through VSR testing, etc. But whats the point. How you can even compare modern turbocharger longevity to your antiquated Roots blower is simply comical. Stop being a troll.

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Eaton roots blower by the way are used by mercedes benz and jaguar and (it is a fact ) the most reliable FI (Supercharged Book by Corky BELL. The last car i had was Audi S4 i do not think turbos evolved that much ..since ...oh maybe They should take you as a consultant engineer in Nissan because i think they are designing a 350z turbocharged and they need somebody like you.


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