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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Unhappy Bummer: coolant in my oil after headgasket swap

Well, crap. I just took the car around the block, checked the oil, only to find milky white crap all over the bottom side of the oil cap, and steam shooting out the oil filler hole. Coolant pouring out of the overflow can. Guess I didn't get the heads sealed up properly after all.

I'm pretty much done, and going back to stock, so be checking the classifieds in the next few days for my built motor, turbo kit, and other turbo related accessories.

NA doesn't sound so bad after all .

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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
Well, crap. I just took the car around the block, checked the oil, only to find milky white crap all over the bottom side of the oil cap, and steam shooting out the oil filler hole. Coolant pouring of the overflow can. Guess I didn't get the heads sealed up properly after all.

I'm pretty much done, and going back to stock, so be checking the classifieds in the next few days for my built motor, turbo kit, and other turbo related accessories.

NA doesn't sound so bad after all .
That sucks dude....but don't give up....I mean you aren't very far away from done. If its just the headgasket pull the heads and repalce it....at this point you have so much invested and you are so close its worth it to stick it out for just a little while longer...
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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Pulling the heads means pulling the motor (easier than trying with it in the car), taking off 80% of the turbo kit, tearing down half the motor, and then putting everything back. I don't have the time or energy for that anymore, only to have the chance that something else could go wrong.

Of the year and a half since I bought the turbos, I've only been up and driving for about 4 months, total. I'm over it.
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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Built motor avail? Hmmmmmmmmm

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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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Oh man I know how you feel, Im sorry to hear of your problems. Like MIA said though your so close to being done, while it will take many more hours or some decent $$$ to fix this stick in there man, you've come so far. Even if you dont want to/cant fix it now give it a while dont part out the pieces....good luck to you.
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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sounds to me its not the improper seal, you might have put the head gaskets on wrong/backwards but thats just what i think because ive seen that happen on a 2jz
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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Man this sucks....Hope everything works out....
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Thanks guys. I dunno what it is about this car, but I just can't seem to give up. I'm already thinking of pulling it and starting over again, much to my girlfriends horror.

As for the headgasket being backwards....is that possible to do and still have it fit correctly? I guess anything is possible, but it's more likely that I didn't prep the surfaces well enough. Also, I didn't even check if the surfaces were true....I just cleaned and re-installed.

I could do it in half the time as before, and do a better job. Plus I could try the new HKS gaskets. Hmm......
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Make sure the sleeves having sunk. Get a straight edge and feel gauge onto it. Best of luck man. My car has also been off the road for almost 2 years now. Its crazy frustrating an i know the exact feelin!
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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How could the sleeves have sunk?
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Hang in there !!!! Im fixin to do mine also but damned if Im pullin the motor!!!!Good Luck !!
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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Hang in there !!!! Im fixin to do mine also but damned if Im pullin the motor!!!!Good Luck !!
Thanks man!

Bro, pulling the motor is so easy.....

The way I pulled mine, was pulling off the front clip with radiator and a/c condensor attatched (45 min tops), then unbolting the crossmember and a few suspension bolts, and just lowering it down couple inches. The complete motor and turbo kit with the huge 3.5" downpipes came straight out the front. You can do it with out lowering the crossmember, but in my case with the APS kit, I'd have to remove the downpipes, which sucks. I could have the whole thing out again in less than 3 hrs that way, having already done it once. All of this on jack stands, of course.
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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it would be almost impossible to do the head gaskets backwards if you were assembling the motor with your eyes open, lol.
i have been thinking about this since you called, but havn't come up with much more than what we talked about.
now here is a question though. you said the motor was just pulled apart correct. did you change the oil after pulling the heads off? some residual water in the heads could have made it easily into the oil drainback holes in the block and that could be what you are seeing. a long shot, but trying to troubleshoot with ya.
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
Thanks guys. I dunno what it is about this car, but I just can't seem to give up. I'm already thinking of pulling it and starting over again, much to my girlfriends horror.

As for the headgasket being backwards....is that possible to do and still have it fit correctly? I guess anything is possible, but it's more likely that I didn't prep the surfaces well enough. Also, I didn't even check if the surfaces were true....I just cleaned and re-installed.

I could do it in half the time as before, and do a better job. Plus I could try the new HKS gaskets. Hmm......
man, i feel your pain..some guys out there run tons of power with very little maintenance..others, can't win ....you have way too much invested to quit..take a week off and spend it with your girlfriend...then pull the front clip off, after you pull the plenum and all the components in front of the timing cover, you CAN pull the exhaust manifolds off and get the heads off without pulling the motor out of the car...

call me anytime if you need any assistance, I have pulled my motor a few times and may be able to lend some advice

don't give up...

-TODD
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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take some time to walk it off then hit it again.

you will be very unhappy with a NA 350z.

You could always ship your heads and block to a shop that you trust and have them assemble the long block and then you just put it back in.
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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I agree with taking some time off and come back to it later when you're feeling more up to it.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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well it has happened to me and my friends before.. while reassembling the block and heads we werent really paying much attention and just slip the hg on and found out there are 4 different ways to put it on and it all looks correct but only one real correct way. putting it on backwards caused some coolant passages to be blocked and so coolant and oil were mixing which you will find the milky white crap. when this happened to us we blew the HG. its these things and these things only......put a coolant hose to an oil hose, headgasket put on wrong, or blown head gasket
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:28 AM
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I have found it helpful (in the past) to find someone who has been down longer and/or spent more money! It always seemed to make me feel better about my situation. There is "no such person " out there anymore that I can call but you're welcome to call me!

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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by overZealous1
it would be almost impossible to do the head gaskets backwards if you were assembling the motor with your eyes open, lol.
i have been thinking about this since you called, but havn't come up with much more than what we talked about.
now here is a question though. you said the motor was just pulled apart correct. did you change the oil after pulling the heads off? some residual water in the heads could have made it easily into the oil drainback holes in the block and that could be what you are seeing. a long shot, but trying to troubleshoot with ya.
This is very true---And goes with out saying,,, A good mill and Special attention to torque specs is SOOOOOO important with aluminum components.

Failsafe ---- Excellent advice but for the sake of dicipline I think I need to keep the motor in otherwise be too tempted to go all the way ---Thats my WINTER project !!!!!
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 06:08 AM
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Well working on cars is a live and learn thing. Im with everyone else take a week off spend some time with the GF. Then jump back in!
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