ConsumerGuide: SuperCharger in 2006 Model
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ConsumerGuide: SuperCharger in 2006 Model
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Further out, Nissan has promised higher performance and other enhancements for the Z, but won't say what or when. However, one source reports that the '06 models will offer at least 300 hp as an option. We'd guess this means adoption of the supercharged 3.5 V6 that's due later this year for an ultra-sporty G35 sedan at Nissan's upscale Infiniti Division.
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Further out, Nissan has promised higher performance and other enhancements for the Z, but won't say what or when. However, one source reports that the '06 models will offer at least 300 hp as an option. We'd guess this means adoption of the supercharged 3.5 V6 that's due later this year for an ultra-sporty G35 sedan at Nissan's upscale Infiniti Division.
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Further out, Nissan has promised higher performance and other enhancements for the Z, but won't say what or when. However, one source reports that the '06 models will offer at least 300 hp as an option. We'd guess this means adoption of the supercharged 3.5 V6 that's due later this year for an ultra-sporty G35 sedan at Nissan's upscale Infiniti Division.
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Further out, Nissan has promised higher performance and other enhancements for the Z, but won't say what or when. However, one source reports that the '06 models will offer at least 300 hp as an option. We'd guess this means adoption of the supercharged 3.5 V6 that's due later this year for an ultra-sporty G35 sedan at Nissan's upscale Infiniti Division.
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2006 sounds very far away. MotorTrend refered to a convertible AND turbo... Becuase they grouped them together I bet Nissan will offer something for 2004 1/2 or 2005 (at the latest). 300 HP sounds way to conservative... They could never face the public with only 13 extra horses in 3 years. They may be able to keep the same rating for a short time, but definately not BEYOND the 2004 Model year.
My bet is 2004 1/2 things will heat up, but then again I thought the convertible would look good.
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My bet is 2004 1/2 things will heat up, but then again I thought the convertible would look good.
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Sorry... I can't buy too much into this report.
1 - There are better sources for auto industry news than ConsumerGuide
2 - Saying the '06 model will be "at least 300hp" is kind of like saying "the sun will rise tomorrow". The odds of it not happening are astronomical. Let's face it... just by yearly improvements in models, the Z should surpass 300hp just with the NA motor.
3 - I don't believe Nissan would drop a supercharger into a G35 and not put it in the Z at approximately the same time. If your flagship performance icon can be outperformed by your sport coupe, then its not much of a performance icon. The only way I can see this being true is if the SC raise the price tag of the car by $10000+... then it exceeds the target price range for a Nissan, but is still within the upper scale realm of Infiniti.
I hope they do something soon, but I have a hard time believing it will occur as the write up makes it play out...
1 - There are better sources for auto industry news than ConsumerGuide
2 - Saying the '06 model will be "at least 300hp" is kind of like saying "the sun will rise tomorrow". The odds of it not happening are astronomical. Let's face it... just by yearly improvements in models, the Z should surpass 300hp just with the NA motor.
3 - I don't believe Nissan would drop a supercharger into a G35 and not put it in the Z at approximately the same time. If your flagship performance icon can be outperformed by your sport coupe, then its not much of a performance icon. The only way I can see this being true is if the SC raise the price tag of the car by $10000+... then it exceeds the target price range for a Nissan, but is still within the upper scale realm of Infiniti.
I hope they do something soon, but I have a hard time believing it will occur as the write up makes it play out...
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Originally posted by mcduck
Sorry... I can't buy too much into this report.
1 - There are better sources for auto industry news than ConsumerGuide
2 - Saying the '06 model will be "at least 300hp" is kind of like saying "the sun will rise tomorrow". The odds of it not happening are astronomical. Let's face it... just by yearly improvements in models, the Z should surpass 300hp just with the NA motor.
3 - I don't believe Nissan would drop a supercharger into a G35 and not put it in the Z at approximately the same time. If your flagship performance icon can be outperformed by your sport coupe, then its not much of a performance icon. The only way I can see this being true is if the SC raise the price tag of the car by $10000+... then it exceeds the target price range for a Nissan, but is still within the upper scale realm of Infiniti.
I hope they do something soon, but I have a hard time believing it will occur as the write up makes it play out...
Sorry... I can't buy too much into this report.
1 - There are better sources for auto industry news than ConsumerGuide
2 - Saying the '06 model will be "at least 300hp" is kind of like saying "the sun will rise tomorrow". The odds of it not happening are astronomical. Let's face it... just by yearly improvements in models, the Z should surpass 300hp just with the NA motor.
3 - I don't believe Nissan would drop a supercharger into a G35 and not put it in the Z at approximately the same time. If your flagship performance icon can be outperformed by your sport coupe, then its not much of a performance icon. The only way I can see this being true is if the SC raise the price tag of the car by $10000+... then it exceeds the target price range for a Nissan, but is still within the upper scale realm of Infiniti.
I hope they do something soon, but I have a hard time believing it will occur as the write up makes it play out...
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As mentioned in another thread, the GT-R (if it makes its way out of Japan) will have a 3.3L TT engine.
I doubt Nissan would cannibalize it's $60K flagship model with a $40K Z TT, especially one with a 3.5L TT!
My bet is on higher-output NA Z models for 2005+... if there's pressure from external sources (e.g., Supra).
Think with your marketing hat on and a FI Z doesn't make sense... in fact that's what killed the last Z. It goes against Nissan's whole new-Z-philosophy of 240Z-like affordability and value.
I doubt Nissan would cannibalize it's $60K flagship model with a $40K Z TT, especially one with a 3.5L TT!
My bet is on higher-output NA Z models for 2005+... if there's pressure from external sources (e.g., Supra).
Think with your marketing hat on and a FI Z doesn't make sense... in fact that's what killed the last Z. It goes against Nissan's whole new-Z-philosophy of 240Z-like affordability and value.
Originally posted by RoadRagerInTherapy
As mentioned in another thread, the GT-R (if it makes its way out of Japan) will have a 3.3L TT engine.
I doubt Nissan would cannibalize it's $60K flagship model with a $40K Z TT, especially one with a 3.5L TT!
My bet is on higher-output NA Z models for 2005+... if there's pressure from external sources (e.g., Supra).
Think with your marketing hat on and a FI Z doesn't make sense... in fact that's what killed the last Z. It goes against Nissan's whole new-Z-philosophy of 240Z-like affordability and value.
As mentioned in another thread, the GT-R (if it makes its way out of Japan) will have a 3.3L TT engine.
I doubt Nissan would cannibalize it's $60K flagship model with a $40K Z TT, especially one with a 3.5L TT!
My bet is on higher-output NA Z models for 2005+... if there's pressure from external sources (e.g., Supra).
Think with your marketing hat on and a FI Z doesn't make sense... in fact that's what killed the last Z. It goes against Nissan's whole new-Z-philosophy of 240Z-like affordability and value.
1. why would they have a TT and a SC on the same engine (even MB who is using a Turbo on the V12 600 cars, uses a SC on the V8, BUT the engines are totally different.
2. it would take away from the market, I beleive the "Z" that will be FI will be called the "GT-R".
3. I was told be the head marketer for the Z (specifially) for NA, that the Z will get more HP (the NA allows for it), perhaps just over 300hp (maybe in the future they just include the Nismo stuff on the "track" model or make a "Nismo" version from the factory, either way, we know that Nismo will accomplish this without too much hassle.
4. Why make another $45k car, they just got out of that market, if they are going to do that, just go the GT-R route to battle the NSX, 911, Z0-6, M3, etc....
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Funny you should mention the 911, ZO-6, and M3. Have you seen the March "Road & Track".
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Funny you should mention the 911, ZO-6, and M3. Have you seen the March "Road & Track".
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I was referring more to accel times though.
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Okay, here's how it breaks down. First, Consumer Reports is correct.
Nissan wanted to release a faster TT version sooner but they had no idea how the market would feel with the 350Z in the first place. The sports car market died because of over priced Japanese sports cars and then the SUV flood that hit at the same time. Nissan obviously wanted to capture some of the buzz that the original 240Z carried, which of course, was value. Bang for the buck if you will.
Nissan has tested several variations of the VQ 3.5, on test tracks in Japan, I have this from sources inside the company. Spies if you will.
They've been highly reliable so I have evey reason to trust them still.
I was told that Nissan is debuting the GT-R this November and it will be powered by one of two engines, one is the TT VQ 3.5 and the other is a sport tuned VQ 4.5. (same engine that is currently in the FX45 and the Infiniti M and Q class). The car is expected to be all wheel drive, like previous GT-R's.
Next year, new colors to the 350Z lineup are introduced, Yellow being one of them. They will be introduced in Tokyo (Nov) this year.
Following year, if sales continue to be brisk for Nissan, they'll introduce a TT VQ 3.5. This will be shown in November 2005 in Tokyo at the auto show as a 2006 model. So yes, Consumer reports is correct in what they're saying.
With Toyota relaunching the Supra this year at the auto show (or so rumor has it) and Mazda gearing up for the rebirth of the RX-7 in 2005 (oddly, the same time as the 350ZTT debuts, coincedence? I think not.)... the next few years are going to be exciting.
Honda is finally gearing up to enter the same market with a V6 hardtop s2000 as well. They have been toying with this idea for the past few years, many rumors have been around the sites. This could be another but I'm hearing it for the first time from industry leads I have.
mmmmmmmmmm 350Z TT
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Nissan wanted to release a faster TT version sooner but they had no idea how the market would feel with the 350Z in the first place. The sports car market died because of over priced Japanese sports cars and then the SUV flood that hit at the same time. Nissan obviously wanted to capture some of the buzz that the original 240Z carried, which of course, was value. Bang for the buck if you will.
Nissan has tested several variations of the VQ 3.5, on test tracks in Japan, I have this from sources inside the company. Spies if you will.
They've been highly reliable so I have evey reason to trust them still.I was told that Nissan is debuting the GT-R this November and it will be powered by one of two engines, one is the TT VQ 3.5 and the other is a sport tuned VQ 4.5. (same engine that is currently in the FX45 and the Infiniti M and Q class). The car is expected to be all wheel drive, like previous GT-R's.
Next year, new colors to the 350Z lineup are introduced, Yellow being one of them. They will be introduced in Tokyo (Nov) this year.
Following year, if sales continue to be brisk for Nissan, they'll introduce a TT VQ 3.5. This will be shown in November 2005 in Tokyo at the auto show as a 2006 model. So yes, Consumer reports is correct in what they're saying.
With Toyota relaunching the Supra this year at the auto show (or so rumor has it) and Mazda gearing up for the rebirth of the RX-7 in 2005 (oddly, the same time as the 350ZTT debuts, coincedence? I think not.)... the next few years are going to be exciting.
Honda is finally gearing up to enter the same market with a V6 hardtop s2000 as well. They have been toying with this idea for the past few years, many rumors have been around the sites. This could be another but I'm hearing it for the first time from industry leads I have.
mmmmmmmmmm 350Z TT
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>>The sports car market died because of over priced Japanese sports cars >>
So they are going to make a $60,000 modified Z??? (GT-R) Sounds like a bad idea to me. Any chance they would make it into an Infiniti? That sounds like a better image car for them, considering the cost....
No matter what they bring out I think Toyota will one-up them with somekind of package on the Supra. I don't think Nissan has the image to pull off a $60,000 sportscar. Infiniti just might... or at least could get the ball rolling as a serious lux maker.
I love my 350Z, but If I had $50-60 grand I wouldnt buy a Nissan, no matter how fast it was. Isn't that the price that was floating around?
Josh
So they are going to make a $60,000 modified Z??? (GT-R) Sounds like a bad idea to me. Any chance they would make it into an Infiniti? That sounds like a better image car for them, considering the cost....
No matter what they bring out I think Toyota will one-up them with somekind of package on the Supra. I don't think Nissan has the image to pull off a $60,000 sportscar. Infiniti just might... or at least could get the ball rolling as a serious lux maker.
I love my 350Z, but If I had $50-60 grand I wouldnt buy a Nissan, no matter how fast it was. Isn't that the price that was floating around?
Josh
If they introduce a factory TT version before 2005, I'm going to be pissed. They should either do it from the get-go, or not till the next body style.
Edit: If they are planning a TT version, they should've made that public when they first released it, so they could give the consumer the choice of TT or N/A. This "we'll introduce a TT after all of our hardcore consumers buy our N/A" crap is for the birds.
Edit: If they are planning a TT version, they should've made that public when they first released it, so they could give the consumer the choice of TT or N/A. This "we'll introduce a TT after all of our hardcore consumers buy our N/A" crap is for the birds.
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Originally posted by JmanZ
Okay, here's how it breaks down. First, Consumer Reports is correct.
Nissan wanted to release a faster TT version sooner but they had no idea how the market would feel with the 350Z in the first place. The sports car market died because of over priced Japanese sports cars and then the SUV flood that hit at the same time. Nissan obviously wanted to capture some of the buzz that the original 240Z carried, which of course, was value. Bang for the buck if you will.
Nissan has tested several variations of the VQ 3.5, on test tracks in Japan, I have this from sources inside the company. Spies if you will. They've been highly reliable so I have evey reason to trust them still.
I was told that Nissan is debuting the GT-R this November and it will be powered by one of two engines, one is the TT VQ 3.5 and the other is a sport tuned VQ 4.5. (same engine that is currently in the FX45 and the Infiniti M and Q class). The car is expected to be all wheel drive, like previous GT-R's.
Next year, new colors to the 350Z lineup are introduced, Yellow being one of them. They will be introduced in Tokyo (Nov) this year.
Following year, if sales continue to be brisk for Nissan, they'll introduce a TT VQ 3.5. This will be shown in November 2005 in Tokyo at the auto show as a 2006 model. So yes, Consumer reports is correct in what they're saying.
With Toyota relaunching the Supra this year at the auto show (or so rumor has it) and Mazda gearing up for the rebirth of the RX-7 in 2005 (oddly, the same time as the 350ZTT debuts, coincedence? I think not.)... the next few years are going to be exciting.
Honda is finally gearing up to enter the same market with a V6 hardtop s2000 as well. They have been toying with this idea for the past few years, many rumors have been around the sites. This could be another but I'm hearing it for the first time from industry leads I have.
mmmmmmmmmm 350Z TT
< enter homer slobbering sound here >
Okay, here's how it breaks down. First, Consumer Reports is correct.
Nissan wanted to release a faster TT version sooner but they had no idea how the market would feel with the 350Z in the first place. The sports car market died because of over priced Japanese sports cars and then the SUV flood that hit at the same time. Nissan obviously wanted to capture some of the buzz that the original 240Z carried, which of course, was value. Bang for the buck if you will.
Nissan has tested several variations of the VQ 3.5, on test tracks in Japan, I have this from sources inside the company. Spies if you will.
They've been highly reliable so I have evey reason to trust them still.I was told that Nissan is debuting the GT-R this November and it will be powered by one of two engines, one is the TT VQ 3.5 and the other is a sport tuned VQ 4.5. (same engine that is currently in the FX45 and the Infiniti M and Q class). The car is expected to be all wheel drive, like previous GT-R's.
Next year, new colors to the 350Z lineup are introduced, Yellow being one of them. They will be introduced in Tokyo (Nov) this year.
Following year, if sales continue to be brisk for Nissan, they'll introduce a TT VQ 3.5. This will be shown in November 2005 in Tokyo at the auto show as a 2006 model. So yes, Consumer reports is correct in what they're saying.
With Toyota relaunching the Supra this year at the auto show (or so rumor has it) and Mazda gearing up for the rebirth of the RX-7 in 2005 (oddly, the same time as the 350ZTT debuts, coincedence? I think not.)... the next few years are going to be exciting.
Honda is finally gearing up to enter the same market with a V6 hardtop s2000 as well. They have been toying with this idea for the past few years, many rumors have been around the sites. This could be another but I'm hearing it for the first time from industry leads I have.
mmmmmmmmmm 350Z TT
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Originally posted by msZ
If they introduce a factory TT version before 2005, I'm going to be pissed. They should either do it from the get-go, or not till the next body style.
Edit: If they are planning a TT version, they should've made that public when they first released it, so they could give the consumer the choice of TT or N/A. This "we'll introduce a TT after all of our hardcore consumers buy our N/A" crap is for the birds.
If they introduce a factory TT version before 2005, I'm going to be pissed. They should either do it from the get-go, or not till the next body style.
Edit: If they are planning a TT version, they should've made that public when they first released it, so they could give the consumer the choice of TT or N/A. This "we'll introduce a TT after all of our hardcore consumers buy our N/A" crap is for the birds.
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Originally posted by rodH
are you sure it is a V6 S2000, MY sources say that they are working on a car that is "in between the S2000 and the NSX" that is all that I could get, other than it will be out sooner than we think.
are you sure it is a V6 S2000, MY sources say that they are working on a car that is "in between the S2000 and the NSX" that is all that I could get, other than it will be out sooner than we think.
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Originally posted by msZ
If they introduce a factory TT version before 2005, I'm going to be pissed. They should either do it from the get-go, or not till the next body style.
Edit: If they are planning a TT version, they should've made that public when they first released it, so they could give the consumer the choice of TT or N/A. This "we'll introduce a TT after all of our hardcore consumers buy our N/A" crap is for the birds.
If they introduce a factory TT version before 2005, I'm going to be pissed. They should either do it from the get-go, or not till the next body style.
Edit: If they are planning a TT version, they should've made that public when they first released it, so they could give the consumer the choice of TT or N/A. This "we'll introduce a TT after all of our hardcore consumers buy our N/A" crap is for the birds.
Also, if you note, Porsche 911 Turbos have traditionally been released later than the 911 model.
My "hope" is that what NISMO will have available will surpass any forced-induction or hi-po factory car.
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"So they are going to make a $60,000 modified Z??? (GT-R) Sounds like a bad idea to me. Any chance they would make it into an Infiniti? That sounds like a better image car for them, considering the cost.... "
With that reasoning, Dodge would not have released the Viper. They would have given it to Chrysler. Acura needed the NSX because Honda is known for civics and accords. Nissan is known for fun driving sports-sporty cars so I think they COULD get away with a 60K+ sports car. Personally I could have bought something like a viper but I love Nissan Zs. I hope they keep it a reasonably priced car.
'92 300TT 80K miles
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With that reasoning, Dodge would not have released the Viper. They would have given it to Chrysler. Acura needed the NSX because Honda is known for civics and accords. Nissan is known for fun driving sports-sporty cars so I think they COULD get away with a 60K+ sports car. Personally I could have bought something like a viper but I love Nissan Zs. I hope they keep it a reasonably priced car.
'92 300TT 80K miles
03 350Z Touring