Any TN ST owners plan on switching from T60 to T66?
I called turbonetics a couple of weeks ago. They say the 1.5 & 2 are still in the early stages of devlopement. But my self personally i am planning on maxing out the Stage 1 Turbo and then once that seems to be OK, upgrade to a T-66. But i will have a bottem built-in and some cams and springs. But being able to get a good 600HP out a single turbo is priceless.
bhk1004 what in the hell are you talking about, i thought the guy was asking about single turbo set-ups. But what ever, what are you talking about?
bhk1004 what in the hell are you talking about, i thought the guy was asking about single turbo set-ups. But what ever, what are you talking about?
Last edited by Gumpdriver; Jul 3, 2006 at 03:24 PM.
Originally Posted by bhk1004
I dont think ive seen anyone produce a dyno sheet with a stock motor at over 420? so i dont know any tnetics kits in the mid 400's. another thing is, they were saying that there are certain pipes that cant be made bigger cause of location that is causing the kit even after built motor to have alot of restrictions. hopefully this all gets taken care of.
you shuld listen to MIA.... he knows what he is talking about. You could learn something from us instead of trying to tell us something.
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JET
What are you talking about. Take an out of box Greddy TT kit and dyno it next to an out of box Turbonetics kit. I GURANTEE the Turbonetics makes more power out of box. With tuning I've seen more then one Turbonetics kit making 415/420 at 9.5 PSI. I'm not going to look through all the posts for the dyno sheets but they are out there. FYI theres double the number of total TT kits out there as Turbonetics kits so theres more sampling to take. FYI:
Greddy out of box makes ~350-360 HP
Turbonetics out of box makes 365-380 WHP
Greddy out of box makes ~350-360 HP
Turbonetics out of box makes 365-380 WHP
That would be quite sad to say the least...
For what its worth Ive seen a Greddy Auto out of the box dyno 298whp! That is less than any auto TN kit out of the box. I can understand where bhk1004 is coming from I just dont think hes wording it correctly. Truth is nobody has pushed the singles anywhere near what the twins are being pushed, so its a very unfair comparison. Many times people get caught up in dyno numbers and thats a shame. Give it time
Originally Posted by diwun67
Why did you motor blow up? Defect?
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JET
Originally Posted by Alberto
For what its worth Ive seen a Greddy Auto out of the box dyno 298whp! That is less than any auto TN kit out of the box. I can understand where bhk1004 is coming from I just dont think hes wording it correctly. Truth is nobody has pushed the singles anywhere near what the twins are being pushed, so its a very unfair comparison. Many times people get caught up in dyno numbers and thats a shame. Give it time
bhk1004 if you wanna go TT over the TN thats fine, but dont do it because of the wrong reasons.. Just because no one pushed the TN that far doesnt mean it cant be done. There's a reason why high powered TN's are rare compared to the TT's, here's why.
For starters, there are alot more guys running TTs than the TN ST, and most of the TN guys run on stock block, which I think are really the main reason.
Most ppl who chose to built goes with the TT cause it have more potential than the T60. As you said it yourself, is it worth the extra $$ to built for only ~500whp? I think alot of guys have that thought at first.
While on a stock block, the TN just seem like a good choice, pretty complete, runs good out of the box, economical, and great customer service.. So alot of guys who dont really wanna built right away and just wants a medium setup goes with the TN.
What I'm saying is, most guys who wants to go build also wanna have the opportunity to get a bang for their buck, and therefore goes with the TT.
Another option (and my choice by far), is to go TN and upgrade the compressor for a bigger one, which is actually pretty economical, do this and the HP possibilities are endless.. This option is a great one I think, but it hasnt really been "officially" introduced yet, and therefore alot of guys doesnt consider this when they are chosing their FI setup. Hopefully in the future when stage 2 are released, we will see alot more high powered TN cars, which I'm pretty sure we will.
I know I will be pushing +650whp on a TN ST setup in the future, you can count on that!
For starters, there are alot more guys running TTs than the TN ST, and most of the TN guys run on stock block, which I think are really the main reason.
Most ppl who chose to built goes with the TT cause it have more potential than the T60. As you said it yourself, is it worth the extra $$ to built for only ~500whp? I think alot of guys have that thought at first.
While on a stock block, the TN just seem like a good choice, pretty complete, runs good out of the box, economical, and great customer service.. So alot of guys who dont really wanna built right away and just wants a medium setup goes with the TN.
What I'm saying is, most guys who wants to go build also wanna have the opportunity to get a bang for their buck, and therefore goes with the TT.
Another option (and my choice by far), is to go TN and upgrade the compressor for a bigger one, which is actually pretty economical, do this and the HP possibilities are endless.. This option is a great one I think, but it hasnt really been "officially" introduced yet, and therefore alot of guys doesnt consider this when they are chosing their FI setup. Hopefully in the future when stage 2 are released, we will see alot more high powered TN cars, which I'm pretty sure we will.
I know I will be pushing +650whp on a TN ST setup in the future, you can count on that!
You can count on me too. I'm building my engine for sure and when I'm done I'll make sure the engine can laugh at 12psi. For some reason the idea of one big *** turbo just sounds sweet.
Originally Posted by Gman2004
what is so sad about 360whp @ 5.5psi?
I'm coming off a supercharger experience (Procharger) and I made about 340hp on a stock engine.(All self-installed)
Now I have the TN ST installed. (Again all myself - and very proud) I went with the Tuner kit and chose the UTEC with 550cc's, CJ Motorsports and Walbro 255lph to get me hopefully in the 400 range (comfortably). I plan to bring it to MRC tomorrow and hopefully work out a couple of bugs. I can't wait to Boost again. I Miss It Terribly. Getting in the 400 range is my goal. And the reason I switched, is because I want to get all of the boost slammed at once. Honestly, I am a little concerned about the risk of overboosting, but I do have the new setup with the overboost pipe, so I guess we'll see soon enough.
Once I get my numbers, I'll be happy to share the results.
Now I have the TN ST installed. (Again all myself - and very proud) I went with the Tuner kit and chose the UTEC with 550cc's, CJ Motorsports and Walbro 255lph to get me hopefully in the 400 range (comfortably). I plan to bring it to MRC tomorrow and hopefully work out a couple of bugs. I can't wait to Boost again. I Miss It Terribly. Getting in the 400 range is my goal. And the reason I switched, is because I want to get all of the boost slammed at once. Honestly, I am a little concerned about the risk of overboosting, but I do have the new setup with the overboost pipe, so I guess we'll see soon enough.
Once I get my numbers, I'll be happy to share the results.
Sorry guys forgot about this post. Yes Alberto Turbonetics first sent me the t-62 made a mistake and then sent the correct t-66. I made 500whp at 16psi with stock spark plugs. I am going back next week to get one step colder and a Apexi AVCR boost controller right now the car is tuned of wastegate pressure becasue the boost solonoid function on the UTEC is not working. So gonna make the swap. Also when we tuned it at 17 psi it made 515 but was detonating up top and i think two reasons stock plugs even after the build and the weather was to hott. I am using sunco 94 octane. The car should be able to make 530 at 17psi. Also I have stock cams and heads/valvetrain. Couple of little things left to do before car is good to go!
Originally Posted by Blake350z
Whats max boost on TN or APS ST? No one running around 16psi?
