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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
Cause motherF'ers cant drive man!!
I wont argue with that. Hell I could even say that about myself at the drag strip
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Im with Mia on this one..... TT swapped to ST wouldnt be so desired if there wasnt a true benefit to doing so.
???????? Did someone swap a TT for an ST?
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
what kits would you like to compare?

a greddy TT curve would look way different than a JWT curve

and a TN curve looks a little different than an APS ST

also what ballpark whp are we talking about?
Sorry, I should have given a little more detail to the comparsion I was just trying to leave brands out of this to keep it from a huge brand war. I am thinking about building my motor and either going APS TT or TN ST. I like both kits, but I just wanted to see the differences of how the power and torque come on. I was also more interested in seeing if the singles power would fall off more up top then the twins or if both would hold about the same in the higher rpms.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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There is no way to really compare the two. totally different setups and Engine managment. Timeing tables could differ between the two cars majorly
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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if you are going to build your motor.. then get the APS Extreme Kit when it comes out
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nissansource
There is no way to really compare the two. totally different setups and Engine managment. Timeing tables could differ between the two cars majorly

+1 plus you have a gain control on most boost controllers that can REALLY affect spool.

Comparing the two is retarded.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Besides, once you go for huge power, you will have lag with the TT's anyway, as you're now pushing each [upgraded] turbo with only 3 cylinders each, wheras with a single you're pushing the turbo with all 6... so go figure.
wow...just wow...right when I thought I'd read it all.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
If the power band is so much superior on twins I'm surprised that Single Turbo cars are running the same if not faster times and trap speeds as the twins
Fact is their not...........twins are running higher trap speeds and quicker times.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by doug
if you are going to build your motor.. then get the APS Extreme Kit when it comes out
500rwhp is all I care to push.
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
If the power band is so much superior on twins I'm surprised that Single Turbo cars are running the same if not faster times and trap speeds as the twins with LESS hp...

Show me a single turbo car that's anywhere NEAR my 11.6 E.T. or 120mph traps with 430whp (my whp on my passes) or less.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
Show me a single turbo car that's anywhere NEAR my 11.6 E.T. or 120mph traps with 430whp (my whp on my passes) or less.
I can show you a single turbo car with at least 30 LESS HP ten you running 11.9s at 116.
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
I can show you a single turbo car with at least 30 LESS HP ten you running 11.9s at 116.
twin turbos VQ engines are runing bigger MPH and quicker ET's................game over.
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
I can show you a single turbo car with at least 30 LESS HP ten you running 11.9s at 116.

HAHAHA...you think 30whp on a 400+whp car is going to pick up nearly half a second and 4mph???

I though you said there are ST cars with the same or LESS hp running BETTER E.T.s and traps than TT cars. I didn't ask for an example that's nearly a half second slower with only 30 less horse to the wheels.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
I can show you a single turbo car with at least 30 LESS HP ten you running 11.9s at 116.
FYI 4mp on a trap is a huge gain when it comes to modding...The only real accurate way of comparing is identical set ups and vehicle weight..My car weighed in at 3720 last night with my 260lb *** in it..And trapped 124's..
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 04:51 AM
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weird, cause I thought if you have 2 cars, a ST and TT with both having equal whp, the ST would have ultimately more usable power under the curve for drag racing than a TT because of the stronger midrange.

depending on what TT kit it is, ithe TT might have more power below 2500 rpms, but who cares about that for drag racing?

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Originally Posted by sentry65
weird, cause I thought if you have 2 cars, a ST and TT with both having equal whp, the ST would have ultimately more usable power under the curve for drag racing than a TT because of the stronger midrange.

depending on what TT kit it is, ithe TT might have more power below 2500 rpms, but who cares about that for drag racing?
Why would you think 2 turbos would not produce as much low and top end as a single?
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
I wont argue with that. Hell I could even say that about myself at the drag strip
Holy shat!!This is the first time you an dI agree on something..lol
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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post up the single dynos with torque also, heres a old greddy at 7.5 psi 426 rwhp
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
weird, cause I thought if you have 2 cars, a ST and TT with both having equal whp, the ST would have ultimately more usable power under the curve for drag racing than a TT because of the stronger midrange.

depending on what TT kit it is, ithe TT might have more power below 2500 rpms, but who cares about that for drag racing?

Who drag races in the midrange of the powerband?? My car never drops below 5000rpms in a 1/4 mile run.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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Id love to run around 430whp as my new low boost setup so I can see what kind of times a measly ST will pull compared to the big dogs. With that power in decent conditions I dont think anybody can tell me my car wouldnt be 119-120mph as well...
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