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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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I was wondering if anyone knows what happened to them lately? They used to be on both Intense Motorsports and Performance Nissan's websites, and now they're gone!!!!!!! Availibility issues maybe? Anyone got any news?

The bug is getting bigger and bigger!!!! I think about how nice it would be to have a Viper or a Z-06, but then, I see my car clean, at a certain angle, at a certain time of day, in certain light, and I ask myself......WHY??????? A Turbonetics kit or APS and this car would be almost as much fun. Maybe even more, because it's MY baby!!!

Anyway, if anyone has any info on the APS kits, that would be great. I have a friend that has one and swears by it. I've riden in it and it was amazing!!!!! So if I go FI, it will most likely be the Turbonetics or APS.

Thanks, and keep the faith fellow Z'ers!!!!!!

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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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go over to the darkside, the other Z site and find out. they all believe APS is gods gift to humanity so they should have some more info on this.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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We have both the Extreme TT and regular TT kits on our website. They have been selling pretty steadily. No changes. http://www.forgedperformance.com/store/home.php?cat=254

We ordered two Extreme kits, and they should be arriving sometime in July.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexx
go over to the darkside, the other Z site and find out. they all believe APS is gods gift to humanity so they should have some more info on this.
Dude....again this crap starts.
He asked where he can get an APS not fo your to start another "who has the bigger dick" war.
Let it be, be happy that we all have fast amazing Z's

Liveoneva:
Sharif is of course the first stop, the other reliable source would be Irshad at GRD

at http://www.grdperformance.com/

and if it matters I would not switch to a viper...forcefeed the Z and you'll be a happy man, just do all the proper research and ignore the bikkering
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat
Dude....again this crap starts.
He asked where he can get an APS not fo your to start another "who has the bigger dick" war.
Let it be, be happy that we all have fast amazing Z's

Liveoneva:
Sharif is of course the first stop, the other reliable source would be Irshad at GRD

at http://www.grdperformance.com/

and if it matters I would not switch to a viper...forcefeed the Z and you'll be a happy man, just do all the proper research and ignore the bikkering
But since he started..My dick is bigger....
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Originally Posted by Nexx
go over to the darkside, the other Z site and find out. they all believe APS is gods gift to humanity so they should have some more info on this.
Watch yourself on the stereotypes slickster.
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Originally Posted by Nexx
go over to the darkside, the other Z site and find out. they all believe APS is gods gift to humanity so they should have some more info on this.

and you give two ****z cuz your..... um.... turbo'd?

original poster, check out importpartspro.com as well. Kyle is a great guy.
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Originally Posted by liveoneva
I was wondering if anyone knows what happened to them lately? They used to be on both Intense Motorsports and Performance Nissan's websites, and now they're gone!!!!!!! Availibility issues maybe? Anyone got any news?



Thanks, and keep the faith fellow Z'ers!!!!!!

Mark
Both those places are NOT authorized dealers and that may be why they are no longer listed. Buy from an authorized dealer like GRD or Japtrix
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 05:30 AM
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Go to www(dot)AirPoweredSystems(dot)com and you can look up all the dealers in the US. You should be able to find one in VA so that you can actually see the kit and probably get a ride in a APS TT Z.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Thanks for the uselful AND entertaining read. I really do think that once I get an FI kit on my baby, I will be at peace with the mod bug. Well for a long time anyway.

Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by liveoneva
Thanks for the uselful AND entertaining read. I really do think that once I get an FI kit on my baby, I will be at peace with the mod bug. Well for a long time anyway.

Thanks again.
Just don't go over 380whp unless you're going to go with forged pistons and rods, per Peter/APS.
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Originally Posted by BrianLG35C
Just don't go over 380whp unless you're going to go with forged pistons and rods, per Peter/APS.
I wouldn't be so quick to discourage others. 400+ ftw on stock block. 10K since being FI, I beat on my Z when I get the chance to. And if you keep up in the Street section I'm not afriad to run it hard with VIDEOS.

Japtrix did an awesome job on the tune.

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Not trying to discourage at all, just stating the facts from Peter/APS. This 380whp APS now states is the maximum they'll let leave their Australian shop with stock internals.

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I believe peter was more concerned about going over 400 ft lbs of torque.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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That figure was on an Australian dyno, that's around 400whp US HP.

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Originally Posted by ZZZ-35
That figure was on an Australian dyno, that's around 400whp US HP.

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Good point. I have heard Peter make that point before on the dyno comparisons. Maybe even a wee bit more on the conversion than that. I think I'll stay right at 400 whp and wheel torgue on a dynapack with APS TTs and stock engine. That is still a lot of go power. I was taking to Irshad at GRD a couple of weeks ago and they did have some APS TT kits available then. I did not ask how many but some are available. It is a very complete and well engineered kit. And yes, as a matter of fact, it is God's favorite. Mine as well.
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Originally Posted by ZZZ-35
That figure was on an Australian dyno, that's around 400whp US HP.

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So, AU has a different forumla for HP?
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Originally Posted by teh215
So, AU has a different forumla for HP?
It's just that tuners in Australia, UK and other European countries seem to think that American dyno numbers are a bit high (overrated).
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Originally Posted by phoenix_master
It's just that tuners in Australia, UK and other European countries seem to think that American dyno numbers are a bit high (overrated).
APS uses a Dyno Dynamics Dyno, and does not use a correction factor in house. The DD can be corected to show dyno jet like numbers by adding 13%. So if the car is making 380 on their dyno it would make about 429 on a Dyno jet.
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Originally Posted by captj3
I believe peter was more concerned about going over 400 ft lbs of torque.
Well, this is what he said in May of this year on the other site...

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I would stronly recommend that you have the engine tuned by a competent engine tuner with a true load based dyno (turn down the boost pressure via the Unichio computer) especially if you're using 91 octane fuel, I would map the boost to a maximum limit of 8 PSI (other wise you may well detonate the engine to death, hope this helps.

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We've got high fuel octane virtually everywhere in Oz (Premium unleaded 98 RON which is similar to your 93 octane) and we at APS tend to be far more conservative with power levels (rear whp power from approx 205 whp stock to approx 370 whp, twin turbocharged with stock cats and APS true dual exhaust system) with a 165 whp gain from the twin turbo system.

I think it's reasonable to say that when you start pushing for massive power/torque gains (400 + whp) from the stock engine that it's very possible to have an engine failure, the stock con rod has it's mechanical limits.

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Obviously if you push the power boundaries of a bone stock engine at some point (most likey over 400 whp) you will find the limit of the stock rod/piston.

As I said previously, we at APS have twin turbocharged 42 Z cars (all produce around 370 to 380 whp on our dyno dynamics load based dyno, a genuine power gain of approx 165 whp over stock and to date we've never had a single engine problem, if you play hard with the stock engine (over 400 whp) there is going to be a number of engines that fail con rods/pistons imho.

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It's always possible to tune the engine to a higher or lower power level, at APS we custom dyno tune every engine we'd never allow a stock TT engine to leave with over 380 whp. As I said previously, if the owner/tuner decide to tune for higher whp power then you have to accept the possibibility of a rod/piston failure, that's life with over 400 + whp with a VQ engine.

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