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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Would like someone to make my mind up for me. I am torn between the Stillen Stage 3 SC and the Turbonetics Single Turbo kit. Please help.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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Would like someone to make my mind up for me. I am torn between the Stillen Stage 3 SC and the Turbonetics Single Turbo kit. Please help.
ok first skip the stage 3 its a waist,if you want to go with stillen go right to stage 4.now if higher horsepower is your goal go with the tn if more reliability is your goal go with the stillen.do a search before you get flamed,there is a ton of info on this site.also i would recomennd waiting till the end of this year stillen is R@Ding a larger blower which will be much more power then now.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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Would you like us to make up you rmind on what toilet paper to wipe your a$$ with too? Perhaps tell you how to properly give a reach around?

In all seriousness I agree with superchargeg and Ill add-NOBODY should decide what is better for you other than yourself. If you do you will remain uneducated and with FI thats a guarantee disaster, unfortunately, even the smart ones have issues. I dunno how you narrowed it down to these two kits-they are VERY different with different characteristics/goals in mind. My honest suggestion is to read a little more, set your budget, set your goals as far as powerband-not just peak power numbers, and see what would work best for you
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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It all depends on what you want out of your car. Make a list of priorities for us and I can give you my opinion at least. I currently own a Stillen Stage 3 G35 and a JWT TT 350Z so I have experience in both realms of F/I, just not the TN ST.

Put these in order according to priority for you...

Peak Power
Strong Power Curve
Bragging Rights
Sound
Reliability
Reputation
Tuneability
Knowlege base
Price

Then put these in order on how you drive your car the most

Highway
Stoplight to stoplight
Street Racing
Track Racing
Drag Racing
Autocross
Drifting
Weekend cruising
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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^^ LOL bragging rights and drag racing should go together along with driving skill, because we have many high hp Z's who cant even hit 12's....
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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+1 .... you need to know what you really want and what you really need..... it's also a matter of expense as well....... How much are you willing to spend and how much do you want to use to maintain your fi unit.......?
BTW stillen is working on an mb90 right now.... they tell me that where the stage 4 ends, the mb90 starts to kick in.... so i am personally very excited on this new blower.... they said hopefully by the end of the year........i spoke to sammy about this over at stillen yest.


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It all depends on what you want out of your car. Make a list of priorities for us and I can give you my opinion at least. I currently own a Stillen Stage 3 G35 and a JWT TT 350Z so I have experience in both realms of F/I, just not the TN ST.

Put these in order according to priority for you...

Peak Power
Strong Power Curve
Bragging Rights
Sound
Reliability
Reputation
Tuneability
Knowlege base
Price

Then put these in order on how you drive your car the most

Highway
Stoplight to stoplight
Street Racing
Track Racing
Drag Racing
Autocross
Drifting
Weekend cruising
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+1 .... you need to know what you really want and what you really need..... it's also a matter of expense as well....... How much are you willing to spend and how much do you want to use to maintain your fi unit.......?
BTW stillen is working on an mb90 right now.... they tell me that where the stage 4 ends, the mb90 starts to kick in.... so i am personally very excited on this new blower.... they said hopefully by the end of the year........i spoke to sammy about this over at stillen yest.
What a bunch of a holes lol. Scott from VRT and I went to Stillen the day before yesterday with the idea of using an M90 and they shot it down lol, so we were going to try and do it ourselves without their help. Hopefully we can beat them to the punch then.
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What a bunch of a holes lol. Scott from VRT and I went to Stillen the day before yesterday with the idea of using an M90 and they shot it down lol, so we were going to try and do it ourselves without their help. Hopefully we can beat them to the punch then.
man that would be sweet,beat stillen to the punch.then ill buy it from you guys and screw stillen.i know scott could figure it out as much exp as he has with the stillen.
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man that would be sweet,beat stillen to the punch.then ill buy it from you guys and screw stillen.i know scott could figure it out as much exp as he has with the stillen.
VRT's main mechanic thinks he can actually get close to 400whp with the current M70 (which I can't fathom). I think we are going to try his methods first and then see what we can do with a built motor/M90. IMO, and Scotts, 400whp with a roots type blower will be way better than 450whp with a TT. We will see how it goes. Testing on the M70 should start very soon.
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Originally Posted by 350ZNV
What a bunch of a holes lol. Scott from VRT and I went to Stillen the day before yesterday with the idea of using an M90 and they shot it down lol, so we were going to try and do it ourselves without their help. Hopefully we can beat them to the punch then.
Yeah..most of us Stillen guys would definitely be interested to see what VRT has up their sleeves!!

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Interesting. I bet it is the M90 and they were just trying to stop VRT from trying it themselves. Scott talked to them and they said that they considered it, but it would take too much.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 350ZNV
Interesting. I bet it is the M90 and they were just trying to stop VRT from trying it themselves. Scott talked to them and they said that they considered it, but it would take too much.
I thought for sure it would be the M90 also. I bet you hit it on the spot...they probably don't want VRT stepping on their toes!! LOL
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Originally Posted by superchargedg
ok first skip the stage 3 its a waist,if you want to go with stillen go right to stage 4.now if higher horsepower is your goal go with the tn if more reliability is your goal go with the stillen.do a search before you get flamed,there is a ton of info on this site.also i would recomennd waiting till the end of this year stillen is R@Ding a larger blower which will be much more power then now.

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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 350ZNV
VRT's main mechanic thinks he can actually get close to 400whp with the current M70 (which I can't fathom). I think we are going to try his methods first and then see what we can do with a built motor/M90. IMO, and Scotts, 400whp with a roots type blower will be way better than 450whp with a TT. We will see how it goes. Testing on the M70 should start very soon.
the current blower is the m62,there is no such thing as a m70 according to eaton.also the m62 is maxed out,they should have been smart and started with the m90 in the first place.
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M62...M70. I was only 8 off .
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 350ZNV
It all depends on what you want out of your car. Make a list of priorities for us and I can give you my opinion at least. I currently own a Stillen Stage 3 G35 and a JWT TT 350Z so I have experience in both realms of F/I, just not the TN ST.

Put these in order according to priority for you...

Reliability
Price
Knowlege base
Sound
Peak Power
Reputation
Bragging Rights
Strong Power Curve
Tuneability

Then put these in order on how you drive your car the most
Weekend cruising
Stoplight to stoplight
Street Racing
Highway
Drag Racing
Track Racing
Autocross
Drifting

would this lean towards stillen? i cant dyno/tune but want a system that would work safely and reliably for 24 mths.. not a single other mod would go on the (already stock) car and i would be willing to do gauges. im not looking for big power but would like to keep up with/beat cars like m3s and srt8s. (or does that requier big power?)
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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Guys didnt you read this forum? Know one should be running a supercharger anywhere. Im gald I read this i am taking off my supercharger tonight.

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/208282-any-stillen-sc-in-chattanooga-area.html
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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im a newbie and i can see that doug has no idea what he's talking about.
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doug has turbo i think. don't let others tell you what you want or need. From what you said fro this:

Put these in order according to priority for you...


Reliability
Price
Knowlege base
Sound
Peak Power
Reputation
Bragging Rights
Strong Power Curve
Tuneability

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Then put these in order on how you drive your car the most

Weekend cruising
Stoplight to stoplight
Street Racing
Highway
Drag Racing
Track Racing
Autocross
Drifting

you're definatley leaning toward stillen. However, do some research. Stillen stage 4 is limited to 350rwhp but has torque almost at idle. Turbonetics has 400hp out of the box w/ 410 torque, but i'd definately get a tune and not the technosquare tune. Stillen is probably more reliable, but the tune is what governs this.
again, its up to you, how much cash you have, and what your goals are.
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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it seems like stillen would be safe to go without dynotune whereas turbonetics would not be. is that right? even though i wouldnt be modifying my kit or the car (besides adding the kit to it)
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