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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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Here is the story, I currently have a Turbonetics ST on my G35 but I am planning on a engine rebuild in the furture. OK, I have the kit and then Sharif says he know is a authorized dealer of JWT now. OK if I sale my turbonetics I still need about 3k for the for the JWT.

Now i need some great opinions keep the Turbonetics and do the engine rebuild or sale the Turbonetics and save up JWT. My goals are once all said and done are at the least 500-550 whp on a rebuilt engine.

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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you should do the engine build no matter what, it'll cost you a heck more than 3 k though.
Not sure if the turbonetics in it's current state can hit 550whp (ignorance on my part), if it can than stick with that.
I'd of course would go with the APS TT not the JWT, nothing against them but it's just been out longer and proven to deliver.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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JWT TTto stay under 400 whp
APS TT to go 500 - 600 whp
Greddy TT to go beyond 600 whp

again.. just my opinion
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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JWT all the way. Excellent company, AMAZING customer service, and best of all - your keeping your money in the USA while getting a quality product.

I would just wait it out a tad longer to verify Sharif's opinion on the JWT after he installs one himself.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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JWT or wait for TN to release Stage 2....
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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Yeah I'd wait on the Turbonetics Stage 2 kit and slap that on when you're doing a built motor.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Yeah, I love the kit i have now. But it is just so many questions about the Stg. 2
as in the way of HP, release date, and will it fit the current turbonetics set-up etc.... These are my current concerns.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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Whatever you do, keep your money in the USA. Money saved outside of the country will lead to poor customer service. Besides, TN and JWT have been known to pwn in cusomter service..
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I don't think HP will be an issue for you with the Turbonetics Stage 2. Unless 550 RWHP out of box is not enough with the potential for 700 or more from the turbo. In case you haven't heard of the Turbonetics GTK turbo line let me just put it this way. More efficient then any current Garrett GT turbo. Same spool with more boost and much more hp then any current Turbonetics turbo at the same boost pressure. Oh yeah and Turbonetics is testing the GTK turbos for the Stage 2 kit.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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I don't think HP will be an issue for you with the Turbonetics Stage 2. Unless 550 RWHP out of box is not enough with the potential for 700 or more from the turbo. In case you haven't heard of the Turbonetics GTK turbo line let me just put it this way. More efficient then any current Garrett GT turbo. Same spool with more boost and much more hp then any current Turbonetics turbo at the same boost pressure. Oh yeah and Turbonetics is testing the GTK turbos for the Stage 2 kit.
OK MIA I did not know what Turbonetics was doing with the Stage 2 but it sound very promising. 550 out the box is crazy. How will it fit with the current turbonetics set-up and will I be able to buy the nessary parts seperatly? Please keep me informed. THX
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OK MIA I did not know what Turbonetics was doing with the Stage 2 but it sound very promising. 550 out the box is crazy. How will it fit with the current turbonetics set-up and will I be able to buy the nessary parts seperatly? Please keep me informed. THX
All that is still being finalized. When the Stage 2 kit is done it will just as complete as Stage 1 and then some. There will be an easy way to upgrade I know that much for sure.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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You know if this is the best way I will def. keep the kit. If it is cheaper to upgrade rather than change kits I will definatly wait on the upgrade. Do you have a clue when will be realeased? This month next month etc.... THX. PM any details as you get them.
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You know if this is the best way I will def. keep the kit. If it is cheaper to upgrade rather than change kits I will definatly wait on the upgrade. Do you have a clue when will be realeased? This monht next month etc.... THX
No later then SEMA I know that for sure. Especially since the GTK turbos are going to be released at SEMA as well.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
No later then SEMA I know that for sure. Especially since the GTK turbos are going to be released at SEMA as well.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by plumpzz
Whatever you do, keep your money in the USA. Money saved outside of the country will lead to poor customer service. Besides, TN and JWT have been known to pwn in cusomter service..
+1, i have heard great stories of TN customer service as well.

as a business owner in the USA, i know how much it sucks to watch customers sending their money to other countries... funny how everyone hates americans until its time to take our money.

If you couldn't get an equally valuable product then I could understand, but when there are high or higher quality options, usa all the way baby. i run a greddy kit, as it was the only option when i did it. (i hate to sound like a hypocrite, at least they have US offices haha) while i love the system to death, especially with the improvements i have made to my personal setup.. i would probably go JWT if i were to get a system right now - I personally like twins over singles on V engines, and I like cast manifolds.

EDIT Also, on the topic of customer service, I had a small issue with my Greddy kit that I wont elaborate on, but I was *extremely pleased* when I called them, and even after 2 years from when I purchased the system, they overnighted me a new part for free the same day i called (took it out of one of their boxed up kits, wow!), all I had to pay for was the shipping cause I wanted it overnight rather then ground. i guess this is a benefit of them having 2 large US offices / warehouses.

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
I don't think HP will be an issue for you with the Turbonetics Stage 2. Unless 550 RWHP out of box is not enough with the potential for 700 or more from the turbo. In case you haven't heard of the Turbonetics GTK turbo line let me just put it this way. More efficient then any current Garrett GT turbo. Same spool with more boost and much more hp then any current Turbonetics turbo at the same boost pressure. Oh yeah and Turbonetics is testing the GTK turbos for the Stage 2 kit.
i have read some about the GTKs, i am very curious to see peoples results wiht them
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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i have read some about the GTKs, i am very curious to see peoples results wiht them
I can't wait. If the testing I have seen continues the way it has its going to be a REAL good day for single turbo owners when they are released.
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I have your exact situation and I have been talking to Ed at turbonetics who owns a 350z. He has offered to rebuild my current turbo into a T66 using the following parts: 10830 maintence kit, 30357 ball bearing upgrade, 21348 compressor wheel, and labor for a total of $995.
This by far is the cheapest/best option for you and me for hitting those hp goals.
My motor should be completed this weekend, and without this upgrade I have been expecting approx. 475 whp. With this upgrade you should not have any trouble hitting 550 whp.
I will be asking Ed later today about the GTK series, I don't have much knowledge as far as that goes. If it is as good as people are saying, I will be waiting for it instead. Still...$ is always a factor.
Don't forget all of the other $ that are involved when you get near this horsepower. And I'd also recomend doing 1/2" head studs with your build. The stock block should be good up to ~800 whp, so you don't really need to sleeve it with your hp goals.
Good luck!
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Originally Posted by jwtbrickyard
I have your exact situation and I have been talking to Ed at turbonetics who owns a 350z. He has offered to rebuild my current turbo into a T66 using the following parts: 10830 maintence kit, 30357 ball bearing upgrade, 21348 compressor wheel, and labor for a total of $995.
This by far is the cheapest/best option for you and me for hitting those hp goals.
My motor should be completed this weekend, and without this upgrade I have been expecting approx. 475 whp. With this upgrade you should not have any trouble hitting 550 whp.
I will be asking Ed later today about the GTK series, I don't have much knowledge as far as that goes. If it is as good as people are saying, I will be waiting for it instead. Still...$ is always a factor.
Don't forget all of the other $ that are involved when you get near this horsepower. And I'd also recomend doing 1/2" head studs with your build. The stock block should be good up to ~800 whp, so you don't really need to sleeve it with your hp goals.
Good luck!
Do you have to replace, remove, or add anything to your current kit?
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Trust me, theres a lot more to the stage 2 setup than just a turbo upgrade. Changing out the turbo on the stage 1 piping/gate setup won't get you the results that the stage 2 setup will produce. You're setting yourself up for some frustration and disappointment by not waiting.

This is one good reason why I've been suggesting for those who would like to upgrade to be patient with it. If you don't, you'll only be spending more time and money for worse performance in the long run.
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