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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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I say take it to the load based dynodynamics and test it again... Try to get all the 9psi and see what WHP/WTQ you get.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarspunZ
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With the POS APS turbo, you will not make full boost unless your motor is under a load. This is why your dyno psi was 7 and you are getting 9 psi on the street.
I believe its the dyno that is a POS not the turbo.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mchapman
I believe its the dyno that is a POS not the turbo.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Just using similar terminology.

What did a GT35R ever do to him.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 05:46 AM
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i think im going to try to get a dyno in this weekend. ill try to tell you guys what numbers i get. If i get lower, im going to cry.

And as for the mod, is the aps tallboy necessary? Because i am trying to save up for something that would be more effective in the power gains. Other than building an engine, what should i look for? Cams? EMS?

thanks.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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I don’t understand why everyone gets so hot and bothered about their dyno numbers. From my understanding the numbers depend on the dyno, the person doing the dyno session, the weather, and other variables that I don’t know of. I was also under the assumption that the dyno can be manipulated to say whatever you want them to say.
There are many guys on here that have had their cars dynoed and had amazing numbers only to have then dynoed again at significantly lower numbers.
If I am wrong about this someone please correct me.
Bottom line is… are you happy with your car?
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sugarspunZ
I don’t understand why everyone gets so hot and bothered about their dyno numbers. From my understanding the numbers depend on the dyno, the person doing the dyno session, the weather, and other variables that I don’t know of. I was also under the assumption that the dyno can be manipulated to say whatever you want them to say.
There are many guys on here that have had their cars dynoed and had amazing numbers only to have then dynoed again at significantly lower numbers.
If I am wrong about this someone please correct me.
Bottom line is… are you happy with your car?
In all honestly what should be happening is a before and after dyno by the same shop. Then you could see the change in performance. If the change is far below the average I would be unhappy too.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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I'm also kinda perplexed with amolaver's advice. RNB419-You still haven't answered Zivman's question. Were you tuned "out of box" or custom? Who did the tuning? You can EASILY get safely tuned to max whp of 360-400whp with a nice tune. No need to upgrade cams, fuel system, etc. for your goals.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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I'm also kinda perplexed with amolaver's advice. RNB419-You still haven't answered Zivman's question. Were you tuned "out of box" or custom? Who did the tuning? You can EASILY get safely tuned to max whp of 360-400whp with a nice tune. No need to upgrade cams, fuel system, etc. for your goals.
i assume he was custom tuned by GT. I talked to guy and when i was there dealing with my car.
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And just to add, I am well over RNB419's goals without cams, upgraded fuel system, UTEC, etc. Granted, I'm tuned to 12psi. Bottom end is built up for reliability and safety. Fuel is not a problem whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by synth19
And just to add, I am well over RNB419's goals without cams, upgraded fuel system, UTEC, etc. Granted, I'm tuned to 12psi. Bottom end is built up for reliability and safety. Fuel is not a problem whatsoever.
dont you guys in IL have fancy 93 ocatane gas? that makes a big difference as well.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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correct.

Originally Posted by sugarspunZ
dont you guys in IL have fancy 93 ocatane gas? that makes a big difference as well.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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yah sugarspunz is right, its custom tuned by GTM. But ive got to say i am not that happy with the power i am getting. Maybe its because ive had it for some time. But i want to feel a bit more pull. When i first drove my car, i wasnt fully satisfied with the power i got but i thought i could live with it. Before getting my car back, i was in a s2000 that makes 407whp and 297tq and that was one amazing car. I am not looking for crazy performance like the s2k, but i was hoping something at least close. Not to sound unhumble, but should i ask Sam for a more aggressive tune?
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RNB419
yah sugarspunz is right, its custom tuned by GTM. But ive got to say i am not that happy with the power i am getting. Maybe its because ive had it for some time. But i want to feel a bit more pull. When i first drove my car, i wasnt fully satisfied with the power i got but i thought i could live with it. Before getting my car back, i was in a s2000 that makes 407whp and 297tq and that was one amazing car. I am not looking for crazy performance like the s2k, but i was hoping something at least close. Not to sound unhumble, but should i ask Sam for a more aggressive tune?
That S2K was probably 700 lbs lighter than your G.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
That S2K was probably 700 lbs lighter than your G.
exactly. and the power band with VTEC engines is like a 2-stroke dirt bike.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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the sad part is that he probably spent less money than i did. sigh i guess thats what makes a honda a honda. Maybe i will take it to Church Automotive, to get a retune, or go back to GTM? problem is GTM is like a 2hour drive and a 2.5 hour drive with traffic. sigh.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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btw usually people get a lot more torque than i do, what might be the problem there?

On a side note, did u get ur turbo fixed sugarspunz?
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RNB419
btw usually people get a lot more torque than i do, what might be the problem there?

On a side note, did u get ur turbo fixed sugarspunz?
what year is your car? and are all of your mods in your sig?

also let me ask you this... how many single turbo dyno charts have you seen from people in socal? i have seen 4 and one being my own. none have been over 400 hp or tq.
remember like i said before... everyone on these forums who are claiming to have over 400hp with an st kit live in an area where the gas has more octane or they have more mods than you.
why do you think there is such a huge difference in the numbers when the TT guys with built motors have a pump gas dyno and a race gas dyno. gas makes a huge difference.
take the time and go back to GT and talk with Sam.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RNB419
btw usually people get a lot more torque than i do, what might be the problem there?

On a side note, did u get ur turbo fixed sugarspunz?
yeah i talked with Sam today and he sorted out the problem. i dont understand 100% what the issue was, however when i get a better understanding i will post a write up.
but i am now making 424whp and 460tq. hahhahaa just kidding.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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LOL. I wish my car made that much power. Im going to call up Sam tommorow. Hes a workaholic.

Yah all my mods are in my sig. I thought that these mods would be sufficient for at least 370 whp and 370tq.
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