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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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You mean 62-1? A 62-1 / Tangential T4 P trim .96 A/R is $1660 MSRP. Depending on the dealer you should be able to find that for around $1400-1500. Thats polished compressor housing, T4 turbine, turbine housing in any config you want. Flow for 65 lb/min on the compressor.
yah sorry for not being more specific

so the price is at around 87% of msrp so we shoudl expect to find the gtk for maybe 2187$... i hope there is a program were we can trade in out current turbo if its not too old + cash. I t woudl suck if not cuase by the time i do stage 2 my turbo is going to be only 3-4 months old lol non daily driven
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I don't remember hearing anything about an intercooler upgrade...and I also remember reading that the evolution wastegate will bolt up to the new piping.
All of these things are being discussed. Chances are the Evolution wastegate will not be used in the new setup. But the Racegate (and the new Racegate design) will bolt up to the Evolution flange...
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Robert, what sized turbine housing would allow for maximum output with the current 60-1 compressor. that would seem like a logical upgrade for alot of the stage 1 guys. some sort of new high flowing turbine housing and maybe a new downpipe #1 (if necessary) and a new up-pipe (if necessary).
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yah sorry for not being more specific

so the price is at around 87% of msrp so we shoudl expect to find the gtk for maybe 2187$... i hope there is a program were we can trade in out current turbo if its not too old + cash. I t woudl suck if not cuase by the time i do stage 2 my turbo is going to be only 3-4 months old lol non daily driven
That depends on the dealer. The best thing to do is call a dealer and see what price they can offer you. I was giving you a price average of what I found on the net. Dealers can usually work something out with you though...
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
All of these things are being discussed. Chances are the Evolution wastegate will not be used in the new setup. But the Racegate (and the new Racegate design) will bolt up to the Evolution flange...

ohhh...maybe that is what I remember reading....something about the flange being the same.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
Robert, what sized turbine housing would allow for maximum output with the current 60-1 compressor. that would seem like a logical upgrade for alot of the stage 1 guys. some sort of new high flowing turbine housing and maybe a new downpipe #1 (if necessary) and a new up-pipe (if necessary).
the largest standard available turbine for a 60-1 or 62-1 compressor is a 62-1 Series, P-Trim, Tang.96. That should have the most potential flow on the turbine side of any readily available unit. Thats not saying they couldn't make you a different trim turbine or different A/R housing but thats the largest turbine housing A/R and turbine wheel in their catalog for a 60-1 or 62-1 compressor. Keep in mind though that spool up will suffer the larger you go on the turbine side...
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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spool up doesn't bother me......hell half the time, I end up spooling up to 5-7 psi with the thottle only at 30-40% open when I am driving around town.
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
spool up doesn't bother me......hell half the time, I end up spooling up to 5-7 psi with the thottle only at 30-40% open when I am driving around town.
It might if you went straight to a T4 P trim in a .96 A/R housing. The turbo you have is a T3 (over sized T3 that is) with a .77 A/R. Just moving to a .96 A/R with the same turbine would produce a pretty drastic change. Going up to a T4 P trim would just increase that effect.
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well ok... if there is no update on teh evolution wastegate then ill just upgrade it myself to a tial then of the TN newgen ... the intercooler... i guess i can do that separate too if it does not include it

somethign liek this maybe i dunno
http://www.intensepower.com/icicpein2.html

i am jsut saying cuase for high power HP the TN intercooler maybe small..i am sure its perfect for the stage 1 goals, but i am not sure if its efficient for teh power goals of stage 2

maybe roberto can provide more details here

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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
well ok... if there is no update on teh evolution wastegate then ill just upgrade it myself to a tial then of the TN newgen ... the intercooler... i guess i can do that separate too if it does not include it

somethign liek this maybe i dunno
http://www.intensepower.com/icicpein2.html

i am jsut saying cuase for high power HP the TN intercooler maybe small..i am sure its perfect for the stage 1 goals, but i am not sure if its efficient for teh power goals of stage 2

maybe roberto can provide more details here
Um, maybe you missed it. I said chances are the Evolution is NOT going to be used. BUT the Turbonetics Racegate and new Racegate design as well use the same flange...
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Um, maybe you missed it. I said chances are the Evolution is NOT going to be used. BUT the Turbonetics Racegate and new Racegate design as well use the same flange...

yes sir you did missed me... but i was hoping for comments on the intercooler part =]

i was tryign to find out info on the turbonetics website before i posted with no luck...

btw thansk for your time responding to us these questions man
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
yes sir you did missed me... but i was hoping for comments on the intercooler part =]

i was tryign to find out info on the turbonetics website before i posted with no luck...

btw thansk for your time responding to us these questions man
No worries... I don't know what the plan is intercooler wise. The design engineer plotted out intercooler efficiency at several pressure ratios on the Stage 1 intercooler and is confident it is sufficient for 650 HP... We'll see.
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