Notices
Forced Induction Turbochargers and Superchargers..Got Boost?

Bad Night, DEATH, The END, she's done. BOOM! 20+ psi error!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-22-2006, 10:25 PM
  #1  
ipcheck
Registered User
Thread Starter
iTrader: (26)
 
ipcheck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 931
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Bad Night, DEATH, The END, she's done. BOOM! 20+ psi error!

This happened last night at the track.

Here is the VIDEO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZr_LoNoGw0



















now shes parked, and will be parked for a bit.

Last edited by ipcheck; 11-29-2006 at 04:28 AM.
Old 11-22-2006, 10:28 PM
  #2  
redman333
New Member
iTrader: (8)
 
redman333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Fayetteville, NC
Posts: 1,480
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Really sucks man, I just blew my motor too I know how it feels. Well good luck. Did anything happen to lead up to this or did it just go.
Old 11-22-2006, 10:28 PM
  #3  
Nexx
New Member
iTrader: (41)
 
Nexx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: DFW
Posts: 13,654
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

wtf, omg, that sux. wtf, how did she spike to 20psi?
Old 11-22-2006, 10:41 PM
  #4  
ipcheck
Registered User
Thread Starter
iTrader: (26)
 
ipcheck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 931
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

well, temperature is low here these days, like 39-45, i had my boost controller off, and she just overboosted. PERIOD. gay right? Turbonetics relocation pipe not installed...

=(
Old 11-22-2006, 10:42 PM
  #5  
Nexx
New Member
iTrader: (41)
 
Nexx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: DFW
Posts: 13,654
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ipcheck
well, temperature is low here these days, like 39-45, i had my boost controller off, and she just overboosted. PERIOD. gay right? Turbonetics relocation pipe not installed...

=(
sigh, live and learn, live and learn, thats all we can do.
Old 11-22-2006, 10:55 PM
  #6  
JETPILOT
New Member
iTrader: (51)
 
JETPILOT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Vero Beach, FL
Posts: 6,319
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

You had to know that without the relocation pipe installed this was to be your destiny.

Live and learn..... The point is to learn from others who have gone before you. This overboost issue has been known for over a year now. Some people have to learn the hard way.

Now build a motor and sell the TN kit for a Greddy TT like everyone else has. I'm counting the days til that's posted.

Sucks anyway... I feel for you. Been there. First the bumper crushed by your sister and now this!!

JET
Old 11-22-2006, 11:14 PM
  #7  
silver nismo
Registered User
 
silver nismo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: jeddah
Posts: 1,006
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

OUCH!!! sorry for ur loss man hope u get her back running soon..
Old 11-22-2006, 11:27 PM
  #8  
taurran
Registered User
iTrader: (18)
 
taurran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: .
Posts: 9,482
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ipcheck - Sorry bro for the loss of the motor, but you can't blame this on not having the relocation pipe. You have a totally custom wastegate setup so this isn't the problem with the factory kit. Perhaps there was a problem with your custom setup? (I can't guess what because I don't know how it was configured)

Besides, I've never heard of anyone hitting to 20psi, overboost or not.

Either way, good luck on getting the rebuild.

Last edited by taurran; 11-22-2006 at 11:30 PM.
Old 11-22-2006, 11:28 PM
  #9  
taurran
Registered User
iTrader: (18)
 
taurran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: .
Posts: 9,482
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JETPILOT
You had to know that without the relocation pipe installed this was to be your destiny.

Live and learn..... The point is to learn from others who have gone before you. This overboost issue has been known for over a year now. Some people have to learn the hard way.

Now build a motor and sell the TN kit for a Greddy TT like everyone else has. I'm counting the days til that's posted.

Sucks anyway... I feel for you. Been there. First the bumper crushed by your sister and now this!!

JET

Get the whole story, Jet. He had a custom wastegate setup (neither a stage 1 setup or a turbonetics wastegate relocation)

Thanks for jumping on the turbonetics hating bandwagon, again...

Last edited by taurran; 11-22-2006 at 11:35 PM.
Old 11-22-2006, 11:31 PM
  #10  
rookie
Registered User
iTrader: (10)
 
rookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: OC
Posts: 725
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Dam.... I have read about 6-7 blown motors in the past 2 weeks.
Old 11-22-2006, 11:53 PM
  #11  
JETPILOT
New Member
iTrader: (51)
 
JETPILOT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Vero Beach, FL
Posts: 6,319
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Hmmm.... looks like there's a WG stuck in the OE location in those pics. WTF do you care about my opinions of the Turbonetics setup? What did I say that was negative. Lighten up a little!!!

JET
Old 11-23-2006, 12:00 AM
  #12  
JETPILOT
New Member
iTrader: (51)
 
JETPILOT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Vero Beach, FL
Posts: 6,319
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

His post back from April talking about overboosting.....

https://my350z.com/forum/showpost.ph...52&postcount=1

JET
Old 11-23-2006, 12:04 AM
  #13  
JETPILOT
New Member
iTrader: (51)
 
JETPILOT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Vero Beach, FL
Posts: 6,319
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN EVOLUTION TO ME MOUNTED IN THE OE LOCATION.... Maybe you should get your story straight!



JET
Old 11-23-2006, 12:06 AM
  #14  
zand02max
350Z-holic
iTrader: (22)
 
zand02max's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 13,983
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I see your problem, its that Orange FRAM oil filter,

Sorry for your misfortune, gotta pay to play. GL with the rebuild!
Old 11-23-2006, 12:09 AM
  #15  
Wired 24/7
Dr. Wired
iTrader: (2)
 
Wired 24/7's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Mateo, CA
Posts: 17,582
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Not that it has anything to do with your motor getting blown (sorry about that BTW ) but next time around, I agree you should use some better oil filters than fram. I listed a few great brands in the top 100 questions thread

Good luck, hope everything turns out ok
Old 11-23-2006, 01:43 AM
  #16  
taurran
Registered User
iTrader: (18)
 
taurran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: .
Posts: 9,482
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JETPILOT
THIS LOOKS LIKE AN EVOLUTION TO ME MOUNTED IN THE OE LOCATION.... Maybe you should get your story straight!

JET

I'm going to wait for him to respond before we go any further.

He told me he had fabbed up a custom wastegate mount about 1-2 months ago (Since April). I don't believe this is the traditional "overboost" problem unless this was simply not true. In any sense, the "overboost" issue alone would not cause boost to spike to 20+psi. Cold air or not, that's just a rediculous amount of boost that would be indicative of an inoperable wastegate.

He also told me he had been running the car at 12psi without boost control this week and I advised against it since he would theoretically be out of fuel. I wouldn't have even run the car in that stage, but he said it felt solid.
Old 11-23-2006, 01:48 AM
  #17  
taurran
Registered User
iTrader: (18)
 
taurran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: .
Posts: 9,482
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JETPILOT
His post back from April talking about overboosting.....

https://my350z.com/forum/showpost.ph...52&postcount=1

JET

You still don't have the full story on that issue. He was overboosting in that case due to the flex (ribbed) dump tube he had installed that was causing such backpressure that the wastegate wasnt opening. He replaced it with a smooth pipe and the overboost problem went away.

Meaning - that "overboost" problem you're referring to (due to a modified wastegate) was since FIXED::

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/181920-installed-atmosphere-dump-huge-problem-big-time-overboost-read.html

Please refine your search skills before trying to own me again, thanks.

Last edited by taurran; 11-23-2006 at 01:55 AM.
Old 11-23-2006, 05:17 AM
  #18  
Audible Mayhem
My350z
iTrader: (48)
 
Audible Mayhem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: United States
Posts: 5,165
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

8 psi spike is crazy.... i think something else might be a factor here.

i really dont understand why many people are pushing their stock motors and running boost controllers on the TN kit, i mean the tq levels are already high and i am crazy about pushing the limits.

sorry bout your motor man, good luck with the rebuild, if you near florida area, hit me up and i will see what i can do for you...
Old 11-23-2006, 05:27 AM
  #19  
supra crazy
Registered User
iTrader: (22)
 
supra crazy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SoFlo
Posts: 1,940
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yea man that sucks I was there when it happend my heart just dropped.It sorta made me scared to drive home. I dont realy know about TN kits but how would it just boost 20psi out of no where? did the vacumme line for the wastegat come off?
Old 11-23-2006, 06:36 AM
  #20  
eagletanggreen
Got Track!!!!!
iTrader: (40)
 
eagletanggreen's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fayetteville, NC
Posts: 3,307
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Wow! That is no good! Get her built and back on the road. Sorry to hear about that.


Quick Reply: Bad Night, DEATH, The END, she's done. BOOM! 20+ psi error!



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:33 PM.