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12-25-2006, 06:01 PM
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From my expierence with the pett kit i found that the merge collector on the hotside of the IC was not designed verry good, so i had custom piping made and upgraded to a greddy IC. After trying to shoot for my goal of 600 wheel on the stock 1420 turbos, i found that they couldnt produce 12 psi at redline. At 5500 i have 12 psi(550whp) and at redline i have around 9-10 psi(490-500whp) I will be doing some more upgrading by putting twin 20gs(50 trim) mitsubishi turbos in the spring. then i should have some good #'s for you guys.
and after reading previous posts, i want to see a dyno chart of the 600 whp. Its not possible, i tried.
and after reading previous posts, i want to see a dyno chart of the 600 whp. Its not possible, i tried.
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12-25-2006, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KTaylor
From my expierence with the pett kit i found that the merge collector on the hotside of the IC was not designed verry good, so i had custom piping made and upgraded to a greddy IC. After trying to shoot for my goal of 600 wheel on the stock 1420 turbos, i found that they couldnt produce 12 psi at redline. At 5500 i have 12 psi(550whp) and at redline i have around 9-10 psi(490-500whp) I will be doing some more upgrading by putting twin 20gs(50 trim) mitsubishi turbos in the spring. then i should have some good #'s for you guys.
and after reading previous posts, i want to see a dyno chart of the 600 whp. Its not possible, i tried.
and after reading previous posts, i want to see a dyno chart of the 600 whp. Its not possible, i tried.
12-25-2006, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by KTaylor
From my expierence with the pett kit i found that the merge collector on the hotside of the IC was not designed verry good, so i had custom piping made and upgraded to a greddy IC. After trying to shoot for my goal of 600 wheel on the stock 1420 turbos, i found that they couldnt produce 12 psi at redline. At 5500 i have 12 psi(550whp) and at redline i have around 9-10 psi(490-500whp) I will be doing some more upgrading by putting twin 20gs(50 trim) mitsubishi turbos in the spring. then i should have some good #'s for you guys.
and after reading previous posts, i want to see a dyno chart of the 600 whp. Its not possible, i tried.
and after reading previous posts, i want to see a dyno chart of the 600 whp. Its not possible, i tried.
12-26-2006, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by KTaylor
mitsubishi turbos.
adn yes the IC mod was worth it, instead of merging two pipes in one, each turbo has its own inlet
adn yes the IC mod was worth it, instead of merging two pipes in one, each turbo has its own inlet
12-26-2006, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by KTaylor
mitsubishi turbos.
adn yes the IC mod was worth it, instead of merging two pipes in one, each turbo has its own inlet
adn yes the IC mod was worth it, instead of merging two pipes in one, each turbo has its own inlet
12-26-2006, 08:43 AM
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Why not the PE/IHI 1820SP?
Seems like a logical upgrade for the 1420s.
The PE1820 is well-known in performance circles for making BIG power and putting down good numbers. How does 11.68 @ 121 mph in the quarter mile sound? This turbo uses all IHI components custom-specified by Power Engineering of Japan. The center section is a roller bearing design for excellent spool characteristics.
Flow is rated at 630 CFM at 1.0 bar.
Comes with a 0.8-bar wastegate spring. Call for other spring options.
$1799 YIKES!!!!
http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/pr...spec/index.htm
Or this for the subi world but why not?
IHI VF 22 Turbo
The IHI VF22 has the largest potential for peak horsepower in the IHI Family. In other words, in the IHI model range, the VF 22 supports the highest boost levels. It is capable of running up to 25 psi. Because it is a roller bearing turbo, turbo lag is minimal...the boost comes on around 3300 rpm. Expect to max out the VF22 somewhere in the 400-450 hp range.
Price: $1049.95
From another site:
The IHI VF22 is a DIRECT bolt-on upgrade for your WRX. That's right, no new manifolds, no crazy adapter pieces.
The turbo makes big power! See, the factory turbo is SMALL. This promotes good spool-up characteristics, but the car starts to wheeze a bit as the rpms climb into the upper reaches of the tach. The VF22 adds mid-range punch as well as vastly-better top-end performance vs. the factory Mitsubishi TD04. Typical gains are 20% in peak horsepower, and a whopping 30% gain in torque over the stock turbo at redline! BIG compressor housing means lots of nice cool air, even at relatively high (20 psi+) boost pressures. Subies have gone 11's in the quarter mile using this turbo.
There is a small lag penalty, but let's face it, the factory turbo doesn't exactly come online at 1,500 rpm anyway. Most drivers won't notice the difference; if they do, the smile from the high-end shove in the back makes them forget any lag. If you do want a turbo with better spool characteristics, if not all-out top-end, go with the IHI VF30.
And the last selling point? The price. There MAY be better upgrade turbos out there, but we defy you to find one anywhere close in price.
Proper mods for this turbo would include boost control, upgraded intercooler, and full intake and exhaust upgrades.
Limited quantities!
Sale price: $899.00 Nice.....
Seems like a logical upgrade for the 1420s.
The PE1820 is well-known in performance circles for making BIG power and putting down good numbers. How does 11.68 @ 121 mph in the quarter mile sound? This turbo uses all IHI components custom-specified by Power Engineering of Japan. The center section is a roller bearing design for excellent spool characteristics.
Flow is rated at 630 CFM at 1.0 bar.
Comes with a 0.8-bar wastegate spring. Call for other spring options.
$1799 YIKES!!!!
http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/pr...spec/index.htm
Or this for the subi world but why not?
IHI VF 22 Turbo
The IHI VF22 has the largest potential for peak horsepower in the IHI Family. In other words, in the IHI model range, the VF 22 supports the highest boost levels. It is capable of running up to 25 psi. Because it is a roller bearing turbo, turbo lag is minimal...the boost comes on around 3300 rpm. Expect to max out the VF22 somewhere in the 400-450 hp range.
Price: $1049.95
From another site:
The IHI VF22 is a DIRECT bolt-on upgrade for your WRX. That's right, no new manifolds, no crazy adapter pieces.
The turbo makes big power! See, the factory turbo is SMALL. This promotes good spool-up characteristics, but the car starts to wheeze a bit as the rpms climb into the upper reaches of the tach. The VF22 adds mid-range punch as well as vastly-better top-end performance vs. the factory Mitsubishi TD04. Typical gains are 20% in peak horsepower, and a whopping 30% gain in torque over the stock turbo at redline! BIG compressor housing means lots of nice cool air, even at relatively high (20 psi+) boost pressures. Subies have gone 11's in the quarter mile using this turbo.
There is a small lag penalty, but let's face it, the factory turbo doesn't exactly come online at 1,500 rpm anyway. Most drivers won't notice the difference; if they do, the smile from the high-end shove in the back makes them forget any lag. If you do want a turbo with better spool characteristics, if not all-out top-end, go with the IHI VF30.
And the last selling point? The price. There MAY be better upgrade turbos out there, but we defy you to find one anywhere close in price.
Proper mods for this turbo would include boost control, upgraded intercooler, and full intake and exhaust upgrades.
Limited quantities!
Sale price: $899.00 Nice.....
Last edited by gringott; 12-26-2006 at 09:32 AM.
12-26-2006, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by turismo
Yes but there old in design and the spool would be slower as well.
12-26-2006, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by turismo
I've never been fond of Mitsubishi turbos. Maybe if they change there design and flow characteristics my views might change as well
while I'm not fond of them myself, you cannot argue with results!
12-26-2006, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chimmike
while I'm not fond of them myself, you cannot argue with results!
Any turbo properly sized will have results. Spool and efficiency is my concern.
