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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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Thanks guys...I was almost sure its air as moosa told me!



if you want to put it same place as I did the lines that come with the stillen oil cooler wont reach. here's a pic;

Isnt it bad to place the oil cooler with the lines facing down?
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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Isnt it bad to place the oil cooler with the lines facing down?
dont think its that bad, I've seen many ppl doing the same..
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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Oils under pressure ---Put them any way u want
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Eazzzzzzy
Dont go too heavy on the anti freeze ---I run a quart max and water wetter with Distilled water. ------ I will get flamed but so what, I tossed my thermostat. And lets not get into the water staying in the radiator longer etc etc etc, When I had my SC on ---thats what helped me, along with an upper diverter. Keep in mind --this summer here --NO rain all summer and 100 +++ many days

BTW ---Yes ---They need a Good fan on the DYNO---I take it for granted if they have a dyno they know that ---DUH
MIA has been doing this also for quite awhile and I am going to be trying it soon as well.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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thanks for the pic Im getting the stilllen cooler also!!!!
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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Do you have any dyno numbers that you want to share?? What pis are you boosting at?
Good luck
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by clemlover15
thanks for the pic Im getting the stilllen cooler also!!!!
In all due respect, Get a Hayden Trans cooler of any size that u want and a oil cooler adapter for ur filter base. Will save you --AH ---Hmmmm ---Like a few hundred bucks.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by clemlover15
Do you have any dyno numbers that you want to share?? What pis are you boosting at?
Good luck
No numbers yet as the car isnt fully tuned. it was late and the shop had to close. hopefully by tom i'll have numbers. i'm shooting for 8-8.5 psi.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by clemlover15
thanks for the pic Im getting the stilllen cooler also!!!!
I can piece together an oil cooler that will destroy the stillen and also be cheaper.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by thawk408
I can piece together an oil cooler that will destroy the stillen and also be cheaper.
well let me know Im looking for an oil cooler that will fit with the APS TT,
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Originally Posted by Dubai
No numbers yet as the car isnt fully tuned. it was late and the shop had to close. hopefully by tom i'll have numbers. i'm shooting for 8-8.5 psi.
Keep us up to date on the numbers I really want to know how the tunnig went, I will doing the same kit sometime late next month, my motor is taking longer to build than thought
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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My coolant temps always went up on the dyno. They hardly ever rise on the street. Much better airflow in the real world conditions is the reason. If you're not seeing over 220F (104C I believe) then I wouldn't worry about it.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by clemlover15
well let me know Im looking for an oil cooler that will fit with the APS TT,
I just pieced together a setup similar to the ARC oil cooler with thermostat sandwich plate,
Earl's cooler, AN fittings, and stainless hose for $370
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DXB350Z
no head studs...we are running the stockers.
Stockers... I guess you trq them down to 65-70ftlbs...

Given what we've experienced, don't turn the boost up - head lift is most likely your problem. Often, if there is air in the system, it would overheat by just sitting at idle after 15 minutes of so...

Good Luck and let us know how it goes.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Eazzzzzzy
Dont go too heavy on the anti freeze ---I run a quart max and water wetter with Distilled water. ------ I will get flamed but so what, I tossed my thermostat.

hope you wont get flamed for that, thats what the big boys do...


except that anti freeze part, i live in florida

i gut the thermo first too, thermostats are for girls...
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
i gut the thermo first too, thermostats are for girls...
We tested with and with out thermostat(s), and the car definitely runs much cooler with them in... it slows down the velocity of water flow and provides the radiator the ability to actually do it's job...
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If you have full heat through the vents, then its not head lift or air in the system...which is good news.

On a long continous dyno pull, or stead state tuning and moderate loads, its very common for coolant temps to rise. As long as your temps return to a normal range after the pull, all is well. Regardless of fan size, you will not get sufficient airflow to keep the engine totally cold. What type of temps are you seeing? At idle, we usually see about 185F and max of 216F after a high powered run. Then the temps return to the sub 200F range within 30 seconds after the pull. 85-100C is a good safe range to work within.

But check your heater, and report back.
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Originally Posted by sandy@forged
If you have full heat through the vents, then its not head lift or air in the system...which is good news.

On a long continous dyno pull, or stead state tuning and moderate loads, its very common for coolant temps to rise. As long as your temps return to a normal range after the pull, all is well. Regardless of fan size, you will not get sufficient airflow to keep the engine totally cold. What type of temps are you seeing? At idle, we usually see about 185F and max of 216F after a high powered run. Then the temps return to the sub 200F range within 30 seconds after the pull. 85-100C is a good safe range to work within.

But check your heater, and report back.
Wow Sandy, been spending some time in the shop lately?
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dutchboy
Wow Sandy, been spending some time in the shop lately?
With all of this Tech Support from Sandy, I hope Sharif is giving her a BIG X-Mass bonus...
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Philthy
With all of this Tech Support from Sandy, I hope Sharif is giving her a BIG X-Mass bonus...
Maybe she's really the tuning guru behind all these high powered cars.
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