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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
can you make it fit the sedan?
It should probably fit in there as long as modifications are made for clearance inside the tank. If its required, we can adjust the height of the unit to accommodate the seden tank.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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Any progress on the plenum you were working on a while back ?
we have a completed prototype that is functional and it stopped with that. we do intend to complete the design, but its hard to say when. we figured we would go at it in proper increments, since that manifold isnt needed for cars that dont have at least 2 fuel pumps. now that the pumps are done, i think that properly sized turbos or camshafts might be the next barrier on the way to high RPM airflow.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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Will it be possible to have a single Walbro 255 l/h pump side by side with a single OEM pump. I am confident that this will allow for enough flow for all but the most extreme setups (i.e. up to 800 hp).

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Unfortunately the factory pump nor your standard Walbro GSS342 pump that people are using are compatable with this assembly. The assembly will come supplied with 2 special versions of the walbro 255.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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sweet!! sign me up!
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
Unfortunately the factory pump nor your standard Walbro GSS342 pump that people are using are compatable with this assembly. The assembly will come supplied with 2 special versions of the walbro 255.
I love special versions, keep us up to date I look forward to seeing more.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
The assembly will come supplied with 2 special versions of the walbro 255.
is that the "high pressure" (or something like that) version on the walbro 255?
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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thanks for the bump guys! i actually am at the shop right now we have been testing and tuning the return siphon. We are very happy with the results.

Our adjustments to the siphons main jet allowed our minimum steady fuel pressure at idle to be about 36psi, that should be low enough for anyone. After making that adjustment, we tuned the siphon venturi to transfer 1 gallon of fuel every 48 seconds. This is much faster then required to keep the passenger side (pump side) full until the drivers side has cleared. We actually were able to make it transfer even faster, but we found that it had a strong negative effect on the siphons ability to draw a vacuum after the siphon line was filled with air and then reintroducted to fuel.

This fuel is being dropped directly into the surge tank that houses the pumps. As if that wasnt far more fuel then the pumps would ever need, the surge can is also filled via 2 primary siphons on the underside of the canister. Each primary siphon was transfering fuel from under the canister faster then the return siphon. Basically, we have 3 awesome sources of fuel filling up that internal surge can, and of course the can is not sealed at the top so its constant overflow goes into the tank surrounding the surge can, and then it will be pulled back in again through the siphons on the bottom.

Now we just need to mount the level sensor and do a little real world testing just to make sure that nothing changes from our measurements on the test bench.

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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
is that the "high pressure" (or something like that) version on the walbro 255?
They are a special version of the high pressure We cant tell you guys everything just yet :P
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Does it use the same type of filter as the stock system?
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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no it does not, the stock filter is molded into the plastic assembly and cannot be removed or retained. there is a stainless mesh to prevent large particles from being taken into the can by the primary siphons, and then there are are the pumps inlet filters that all pumps have, and that is it. For small micron filtration, an external filter will be required. There just is not enough room to have 2 pumps and a filter inside the canister.
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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sweet, as always your an pioneer. i wished I had more spare time to tackle some of what you have.

Do you feel this will flow enough for 700-800 rear wheel power?

when you have your findings report back.

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It really should flow enough for that and more. If a single walbro has no problem flowing more than half of that, then I don't see why 2 couldnt hit those numbers. Its going to depend on how well flowing the rest of your system is and if it can support this much flow. I know that our S2 system with 1/2" stainless pipe and -8 to twin -6 can support two pumps, as we originally intended it to a couple years ago when we made the system, as we knew we were heading this direction eventually. So yes, as long as the rest of the plumbing in the car can support it, 700-800rwhp should be no issue.

thanks for the props. within a few weeks we should have some proof of its flow on a great car - but personally im already sold after our bench testing.
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 06:48 AM
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Wish i knew you were coming out with this so soon. I would have held off on the fuel cell for now lol.

Props for the good work.
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 06:50 AM
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Wish i knew you were coming out with this so soon. I would have held off on the fuel cell for now lol.

Props for the good work.
thanks! no worries on the fuel cell, you had a need and you came up with a solution that you knew would take care of the job. I give you props for taking the plunge and taking care of business!
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Two things I need from you now... The replacement bracket to change the positioning of my PS,Atenator and AC... and this
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Originally Posted by phunk
It really should flow enough for that and more. If a single walbro has no problem flowing more than half of that, then I don't see why 2 couldnt hit those numbers. Its going to depend on how well flowing the rest of your system is and if it can support this much flow. I know that our S2 system with 1/2" stainless pipe and -8 to twin -6 can support two pumps, as we originally intended it to a couple years ago when we made the system, as we knew we were heading this direction eventually. So yes, as long as the rest of the plumbing in the car can support it, 700-800rwhp should be no issue.

thanks for the props. within a few weeks we should have some proof of its flow on a great car - but personally im already sold after our bench testing.
Great news, I wished I would of purchased your system instead of the AAM system. I have dreams of 650 700 rwhp. I am stuck at a low of 500 rwhp from a mustang dyno. I am simply out of fuel with the 630cc injectors and single walbro. So I will follow this and remain excited as this unfolds. This is truly a great idea and testing will prove how great it is. GOOD LUCK
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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when it will be out,and how much it will costs?
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
thanks for the props. within a few weeks we should have some proof of its flow on a great car - but personally im already sold after our bench testing.
hey great job, I can wait for it to be out. I already made myself a custom twin setup but I will swap to yours as soon as it is available, why, because of your proven quality.
I'll be the 1st one on a group buy,

1. Carlitos (CJ stage 2 upgrade to 3)
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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Hey Charles, this is carlos the owner of the red G35 of Puerto Rico, nice to see that you still have time to come up with a great product, I will be very much interested in this product as you can see I want to hit the 700whp that my fellow friend Carlitos hit with his G, currently hiting 630whp need the flow of gas to reach 700+ my goal close to 750whp with out NOS.

hope you can contribute

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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Group buy list

1. Carlitos (CJ stage 2 upgrade to 3)
2. Carlos G
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