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Old 01-11-2007 | 02:09 PM
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Does any one experienced a bad darton mid sleeve such as leaking or blowing head gasket? If so, How?
Old 01-11-2007 | 02:56 PM
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Does any one experienced a bad darton mid sleeve such as leaking or blowing head gasket? If so, How?
Many done so far. No leaks and issues.
Old 01-11-2007 | 10:36 PM
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Does any one experienced a bad darton mid sleeve such as leaking or blowing head gasket? If so, How?
Yes, with improper installation it will definitely have issues.
Old 01-12-2007 | 05:47 AM
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Yes, with improper installation it will definitely have issues.
Thank you Captain Obvious, any car part installed incorrectly will have issues, thanks for making that great contribution to the thread!
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Thank you Captain Obvious, any car part installed incorrectly will have issues, thanks for making that great contribution to the thread!
Yes yours was very helpful as well.
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Sharif summed it up nicely....
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I believe Phunk had blown a headgasket after 3000 miles.Dont know what the issue was..
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
I believe Phunk had blown a headgasket after 3000 miles.Dont know what the issue was..
He was running AEBS sleeves, but the sleeves were not the issue. He had the head lift issue with the old ARP head studs. He switched to upgraded studs, and seems to be running just fine now.

I never really liked the AEBS design. The Darton is superior in design, and to my knowledge, nobody has had issues with headgasket failure, that was caused by a defective or botched sleeve installation.
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With the sleeving option being almost 3k installed (from what I heard I'm not sure on price) does anyone have plans to make a cylinder block?
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With the sleeving option being almost 3k installed (from what I heard I'm not sure on price) does anyone have plans to make a cylinder block?
ABout $2000 installed.
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
He was running AEBS sleeves, but the sleeves were not the issue. He had the head lift issue with the old ARP head studs. He switched to upgraded studs, and seems to be running just fine now.

I never really liked the AEBS design. The Darton is superior in design, and to my knowledge, nobody has had issues with headgasket failure, that was caused by a defective or botched sleeve installation.
I thought his block was Darton, since he was shipping it back to Sam at GT for a pressure test..Maybe I was wrong..
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
I thought his block was Darton, since he was shipping it back to Sam at GT for a pressure test..Maybe I was wrong..
Yup, you are wrong, but thats ok..I forgive you.
Phunk was one of the first people to sleeve his block, and he did the AEBS sleeves. I am not absolutely certain that his sleeve "sunk", but AEBS sleeves have had this problem on many occasions, so we stick with Darton all the time.
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Yup, you are wrong, but thats ok..I forgive you.
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My sleeved block is an AEBS block. I had a headgasket problem that was probably a combination of the deck surface not being properly prepared (a poor decision on my part to run it anyway), and because I was on stock sized ARP studs with stock headgaskets.

I do not have head gasket issues any more, because I have 1/2" headstuds, HKS headgaskets, and a FACTORY SLEEVE block.

The block is going to GTM for pressure testing and other investigation, and if it passes tests then it will be sold or I will build it up again with parts I have laying around for another project car we are starting.
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Originally Posted by phunk
My sleeved block is an AEBS block. I had a headgasket problem that was probably a combination of the deck surface not being properly prepared (a poor decision on my part to run it anyway), and because I was on stock sized ARP studs with stock headgaskets.

I do not have head gasket issues any more, because I have 1/2" headstuds, HKS headgaskets, and a FACTORY SLEEVE block.

The block is going to GTM for pressure testing and other investigation, and if it passes tests then it will be sold or I will build it up again with parts I have laying around for another project car we are starting.
Phunk how much power are you pushing w/stock sleeves?
Old 01-12-2007 | 08:31 PM
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I am running 14psi and my last dyno was 541rwhp Dynojet SAE. I need to update my sig but I cant unless I took out the pic since im not a premier member ATM.
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But, would it hold in the long run? if the installation was done perfectly
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Im pushing 600rwhp thus far with stock sleeves, no problems as of yet.
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Yup, you are wrong, but thats ok..I forgive you.
Phunk was one of the first people to sleeve his block, and he did the AEBS sleeves. I am not absolutely certain that his sleeve "sunk", but AEBS sleeves have had this problem on many occasions, so we stick with Darton all the time.
Alleluia ....Darton sleeves are one of the best currently available on the market

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