Look what I found at FedEx today!
dude, do EXACTLY what you just said. Install the kit yourself because if you have the knowledge then nobody will do a better job then you because it is your car so you will take very good care and attention to the install. just be sure to open the wastegates like you said when you drive it to go get it tuned lol
Originally Posted by MightyMouse1975
Well, I was only planning on running the stock 5.5lbs of boost. The very MOST my dealer will let me run without voiding my warranty is 7PSI. I have heard that the GReddy kit with the Emanage Blue is good for 5.5lbs provided it's tuned properly..
I can install it all in my Garage in a weekend more than likely (a 3 day weekend and perhaps a vacation day) and then just drive it to the place with the dyno. It's about 5-10 miles from me, so it's not a big deal, maybe I'll just open the wastegates for the whole ride or something.. just in case... I dont' trust boost at all, I'm very pesamistic when it comes to a boosted car that wasn't built with a turbo kit. I know the risks, I know the difference between my Hi compression engine in the G getting boosted VS. my low low 8:5:1 compression in my 3kgt.. I could run all the boost in the world on that damn thing it seemed like. .. well, 15psi safe without any other upgrades .. I have the sickness though.. I can't leave anything alone. I think, though, I am going to leave the Aprilia alone. I'm already afraid to give the thing full throttle in 1st and 1/2 way through 2nd because of how much power it has..
Well, it's time to take my Math Quiz.. ..
for all you 30+ year olds out there who've never been in college and want to go now.. .. it sucks!!.. and this is still my first week!
I can install it all in my Garage in a weekend more than likely (a 3 day weekend and perhaps a vacation day) and then just drive it to the place with the dyno. It's about 5-10 miles from me, so it's not a big deal, maybe I'll just open the wastegates for the whole ride or something.. just in case... I dont' trust boost at all, I'm very pesamistic when it comes to a boosted car that wasn't built with a turbo kit. I know the risks, I know the difference between my Hi compression engine in the G getting boosted VS. my low low 8:5:1 compression in my 3kgt.. I could run all the boost in the world on that damn thing it seemed like. .. well, 15psi safe without any other upgrades .. I have the sickness though.. I can't leave anything alone. I think, though, I am going to leave the Aprilia alone. I'm already afraid to give the thing full throttle in 1st and 1/2 way through 2nd because of how much power it has..
Well, it's time to take my Math Quiz.. ..
for all you 30+ year olds out there who've never been in college and want to go now.. .. it sucks!!.. and this is still my first week!
Originally Posted by doug
without the timing harness on stock boost 4.5 and emanage blue .. no matter how good the tune you will blow your motor.. so either get the harness or get a UTEC
I wasn't aware of that... I had searched and asked around and heard that the Emanage was good for stock boost (which I had also read was 5.5)
so, perhaps I'll search out the harness for now. By the time I'm ready to go larger something better will be around I hope.. ..
Originally Posted by MightyMouse1975
Is this for real? Does everyone really think it's this difficult? I will get a shop to tune the car.. The rest isn't that difficult at all. ..
It's not Rocket science. I can read.. yeah.. that's about all that needs to be said about it..
Is there something magical a shop can do? Can they do a dance or dust it with Fairy dust to make it work better or something? I trust my car to myself much much more than I trust it to some shop .. No one likes my car as much as I like my car, therefore no one will give it the care and attention to detail I will give it.
It's not Rocket science. I can read.. yeah.. that's about all that needs to be said about it..
Is there something magical a shop can do? Can they do a dance or dust it with Fairy dust to make it work better or something? I trust my car to myself much much more than I trust it to some shop .. No one likes my car as much as I like my car, therefore no one will give it the care and attention to detail I will give it.
There are not too many serious DIYers on these boards. Hell, header installs scare most people away.
Good luck with this, and let us know how everything goes.
And just a curiousity - How is it possible that a major corporation like Trust/Greddy could sell a twin turbo kit that, according to the comments here, is GUARANTEED to blow up each and every engine it is installed on unless you buy a different fuel management system? Is Greddy in the midst of a huge lawsuit because of this? Did they not put a disclaimer in the installation manual stating something like, "If you use the parts you just bought, you will blow up. You just bought a useless kit. Have a nice day."?
Now, if it specifies in the manual not to boost beyond 5.5 psi, then fine. But I've seen other Greddy TT cars (not VQs) using the out of the box em blue with not a single problem.
Last edited by dTor; Jan 13, 2007 at 11:35 AM.
So check this out..!..
I went ahead and got my little air compressor, rigged it for 12V power and plugged it in.. turned the know to 6PSI and Viola!.. the wastegates were open!..
.. now I can drive the car worry free to the shop to get a dyno tune .. Just posting this to all those who doubted it can be done on an external wastegate... .
I went ahead and got my little air compressor, rigged it for 12V power and plugged it in.. turned the know to 6PSI and Viola!.. the wastegates were open!..
.. now I can drive the car worry free to the shop to get a dyno tune .. Just posting this to all those who doubted it can be done on an external wastegate... .
Originally Posted by dTor
But I've seen other Greddy TT cars (not VQs) using the out of the box em blue with not a single problem.
To my understanding, it's not really a "problem" as long as timing is kept conservative. i think what doug is getting at is that the e-manage is providing a timing offset rather than an absolute value. So just keep it really conservative (pull more timing to be safe) and even when the stock ecu decides to advance timing (due to switching maps), it'll still be safe (hopefully)!
I don't what this talk about the harness and safety is though - the plug n' play harness just prevents all the wire splicing...
I don't what this talk about the harness and safety is though - the plug n' play harness just prevents all the wire splicing...
OK, I understand where you guys are going with this now..
Does it hold more true for the 06 because of the Revvup?
I will start looking for a Utech then.. I just don't really feel like spending another $800.00 on that + the intercooler costs.... + the tune..
But, I guess if it's the difference between ruining my engine or keeping it safe I'll have to get it.
Does it hold more true for the 06 because of the Revvup?
I will start looking for a Utech then.. I just don't really feel like spending another $800.00 on that + the intercooler costs.... + the tune..
But, I guess if it's the difference between ruining my engine or keeping it safe I'll have to get it.
Originally Posted by rcdash
I don't what this talk about the harness and safety is though - the plug n' play harness just prevents all the wire splicing...
Mightymouse get the cipher program back the global timing off like 10 degrees with it untill you can get it dyno tuned and you shouldnt have problem. This forum is full of worthless posts like take it to a shop for the install. Hell headers are easy on this car it took me an hour to pull on off and 30 mins to get it back on. You can do timing with the blue with a timing harness. I would just pull timing and get a wide band that can data log and put it back in untill its not running rich.
Originally Posted by rocks
Mightymouse get the cipher program back the global timing off like 10 degrees with it untill you can get it dyno tuned and you shouldnt have problem. This forum is full of worthless posts like take it to a shop for the install. Hell headers are easy on this car it took me an hour to pull on off and 30 mins to get it back on. You can do timing with the blue with a timing harness. I would just pull timing and get a wide band that can data log and put it back in untill its not running rich.
Unless there's been an update, or something different with a later model ecu (I have an '03), Cipher only pulls 2* timing.
Ok, I understand better what the issue is with the EM blue and the timing issue. Makes much more sense now. Thanks for the explanation. The EM blue on an ecu that is not such a control freak would (and does) work better than on our ecus which seem to need to have more control than a PMSing wife who wasn't nurtured as a child by her mother.
Originally Posted by MightyMouse1975
Well, so far the best price I"ve found on a New Utec was $774.00..
So, is that a good price?
So, is that a good price?
Hmmm, I might be selling this kit already!.. ha..
my brother convinced me I don't need it.. I have a 67MG I need to restore first.. I may just give up on the MG entirely and sell it, ... but .. I don't know if I can do that.. so.. this money (if I sell the TT kit) may get redirected towards the MG project..
What do you guys think?
my brother convinced me I don't need it.. I have a 67MG I need to restore first.. I may just give up on the MG entirely and sell it, ... but .. I don't know if I can do that.. so.. this money (if I sell the TT kit) may get redirected towards the MG project..
What do you guys think?
Originally Posted by 350Z_LEE
We think you are a dramatic person with a short attention span that can turbo a Mitsubishi motor and rig external wastegates 
Good luck with the sale.
Good luck with the sale.
my dad gave me the MG a long time ago, it's a 67GT with the walnut steering wheel and shift **** and an electronic OD. It also came with a few other accessories only found on a Queen B.. this is an MG model that only 50 of which were made. It has a significant value to me, as I watched my father work hard to restore it one time, but then it sat for a long time.
I want to rebuild it, but know it's a costly venture and the car will never be worth more than 1/2 of what i will have put into it.
So.. that's why I'm debating on what I should do..
The car isn't even at my house right now, it's in FL at a friends house. another reason i don't think about the whole restore too often.. out of site, out of mind..
and yes, the ADHD thing does kind of play a role in my indecisive behavior. ..
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Serious comments are welcome, sarcasm can be left for other people who really like to get upset about it because you won't really get a rise out of me with it
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