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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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8000rpm's of engine and 3.3FD = stay in 4th down the 1320 for 99% of the cars on this forum...my engine sounds like its gonna explode at that rpm but its exhilarating


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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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Yup,

8000rpm, 3.3FD, 26in tire, 4th gear = 147.5mph

8000rpm, 3.5FD, 26in tire, 4th gear = 139.1mph

And that doesn't account for a tire expanding some at speed.

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8000rpm's of engine and 3.3FD = stay in 4th down the 1320 for 99% of the cars on this forum...my engine sounds like its gonna explode at that rpm but its exhilarating
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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I run a 27.2" tire
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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154.4mph holla

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I run a 27.2" tire
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
I run a 27.2" tire
What tire?
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by thom000001
Yup,

8000rpm, 3.3FD, 26in tire, 4th gear = 147.5mph

8000rpm, 3.5FD, 26in tire, 4th gear = 139.1mph

And that doesn't account for a tire expanding some at speed.

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Whats 3.5, 8000rpm, 28inch, 4th gear = to?
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(28/26)*147.5 = 158.8 with a 3.3FD

(28/26)*139.1 = 149.8 with a 3.5FD
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
8000rpm's of engine and 3.3FD = stay in 4th down the 1320 for 99% of the cars on this forum...my engine sounds like its gonna explode at that rpm but its exhilarating




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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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wooooooooooow

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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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I only rev past 7500rpm's in 1st/2nd gear. Should I have to I would in 4th down the 1320, but its been so long since I ran my car I forgot how to even get to the track...
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So after reading all of this, I still am a little unclear on one thing. Would this help or hurt a stock block car at 9psi?
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jtgli
So after reading all of this, I still am a little unclear on one thing. Would this help or hurt a stock block car at 9psi?
your car gonna be slower

better to do it if u reach 550whp + so u can feel the Difference
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Originally Posted by Alberto
No speedo recalibration, it will work fine but CC wont stay on in 6th gear...
WTF??? Really?? The cruise won't stay on?? Why the hell not? I was just about to switch to a 3.3FD (really cheap on car-part), but if I can't use the cruise any more I don't think it's worth it, I'll just run a 28in tire at the track.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
its been so long since I ran my car I forgot how to even get to the track...
booooo!
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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seems that anything less than 500rwhp and the car at least "feels" slower. Not quite enough tq to make up for the gear gain.

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So after reading all of this, I still am a little unclear on one thing. Would this help or hurt a stock block car at 9psi?
Yup. Apparently the ecu is looking at speed and rpm during CC, and with the 3.3 in a 6spd the speed and rpm are too far off for it to engage....works in 5th gear though.

I don't drive distances so doesn't bother me.


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WTF??? Really?? The cruise won't stay on?? Why the hell not? I was just about to switch to a 3.3FD (really cheap on car-part), but if I can't use the cruise any more I don't think it's worth it, I'll just run a 28in tire at the track.
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Originally Posted by sentry65
ATS/carbonetics said on their website at one point it doesn't work with anything but the 3.5 FD or at least that's how it was designed.

I think I remember Sharif saying his shop used a 3.9 FD with it and the installer said he'll never do one again because it was pretty difficult.
Since this post, is anyone aware of whether Carbonetics is has come out with a 3.3FD or something taller?

Based on my research, it appears that the Carbonetics uses clutches whereas the Quaife only uses gears. Does anyone know how this affects their respective performances?

Has anyone installed and/or used both the Quaife and Carbonetics rear ends that can provide some insight as to the differences between their respective performances?

FYI, I posted similar questions in AcidJake75's thread relating to installing the Quaife LSD in the DIY forum.

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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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I found some information here on the differences between the Quaife and Carbonetics:

http://www.*********.com/zwiki/Diffe...s_Clutch_Type)

Based on this, I am leaning toward the Carbonetics - if I can get it with a final drive ratio somewhere in the range of 3.1-3.3.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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Sorry to revive an old thread, but has anyone figured out the CC issue? ECU flash?
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 03:55 AM
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ECU flash wont fix the issue

You can use CC in 5th but not 6th
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 04:50 AM
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alberto, did you find a 3.3fd with the whole pumpkin included or did you buy the pinon & gear and then buy another stock pumpkin to switch it out in?.....and if you did, how much did the stock pumpkin run you?
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