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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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looking into getting the kit for a g35 coupe but i want something safe as in i dont wanna have to worry about blowing the motor. just wondering who all has this kid and is running it on a stock motor and if you can please leave some feedback on how long you have been running this kit on your stock motor. thanks
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Interested as well. I have the kit sitting in my room planning on installing for spring but second guessing. Where are the people who have had this kit for some time now no troubles...I remember someone saying they had 40k miles on their TN kit.
One thing I have learned from Alberto is to NOT raise the rev limiter on a stock boosted motor for any reason!!

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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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I'm gonna be straight forward. There is no gaurantee. You could blow your motor with any kit the first time you get on it. Don't go FI unless you are prepared to drop the cash for a new motor.

By the way, I have 6k miles on my turbonetics kit, have had a cracked up-pipe and may have a blown turbo seal, I am looking into that. Other than that I love the kit.

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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Interested as well. I have the kit sitting in my room planning on installing for spring but second guessing. Where are the people who have had this kit for some time now no troubles...I remember someone saying they had 40k miles on their TN kit.
One thing I have learned from Alberto is to NOT raise the rev limiter on a stock boosted motor for any reason!!
I answered yes. I have 58,000 miles on my car. The turbo was put on just after 10,000.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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I answered yes. I have 58,000 miles on my car. The turbo was put on just after 10,000.
I think the poll meant Stock Motor as in no FI not stock block.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by saberphx
I think the poll meant Stock Motor as in no FI not stock block.
Um his poll says how many of you have this kit running on a stock block and if possible to leave feedback on how long you have been running. I think thats what it says anyways...
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bone stock here.
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right...i wanna know who is running the TN kit with a stock motor and who has the TN kit and has a built motor. hey mia what else aftermarket do you have? and do you know approx what you run 1/4 mile and 0-60 after the kit is on?
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turbonetics and stock motor?
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i say go with a built motor and a twin turbo kit. that way you make big power while keeping safe. not saying that it's 100%, but it's alot safer than running ANY kit on a stock block. I wouldn't get any kit without a built motor. Stock block + turbo= time bomb.
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Originally Posted by zectasy
looking into getting the kit for a g35 coupe but i want something safe as in I dont wanna have to worry about blowing the motor. just wondering who all has this kid and is running it on a stock motor and if you can please leave some feedback on how long you have been running this kit on your stock motor. thanks
The safety of the Turbonetics kit is based on your ECU reflash. It may or may not work for you. The reflash did not work on my car. My A/F ratio was in the 9's after initial install. You have to think about the possibility that you may need to go with a UTEC so that you can correct the A/F ratio.

If you get the TN be ready to deal with the issues with the kit and the declining quality of service the cutomer service department offers. The up-pipe A/C mounting brackets crack at the weld and rip the pipe open. Many people have issues with the A/C line rupturing. People have issues with these turbo seals leaking oil, myself included. Turbonetics did nothing for me regarding the seals. I still have the problem and now it's out of warranty and they won't help with a possible cause or find a solution. The kit is good for a maximum of about 400rwhp and that's all. There is no upward mobility with this kit and there is no stage 2 to upgrade to.

I blew my motor with the stock rev limiter @ 6600rpm. I hit the rev limiter and it was all over. I was making 410rwhp at the time. I now have a built motor so the Turbonetics kit is worthless to me as it can't make any real power through the OE powerband. The downpipe on this kit is only 2.5" which is very restrictive.

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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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I had a stage 4 stillen on my stock motor for ~9 months and now have a Greddy TT still sock bottom end.
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
If you get the TN be ready to deal with the issues with the kit and the declining quality of service the cutomer service department offers. The up-pipe A/C mounting brackets crack at the weld and rip the pipe open. Many people have issues with the A/C line rupturing. People have issues with these turbo seals leaking oil, myself included. Turbonetics did nothing for me regarding the seals. I still have the problem and now it's out of warranty and they won't help with a possible cause or find a solution. The kit is good for a maximum of about 400rwhp and that's all. There is no upward mobility with this kit and there is no stage 2 to upgrade to.

I blew my motor with the stock rev limiter @ 6600rpm. I hit the rev limiter and it was all over. I was making 410rwhp at the time. I now have a built motor so the Turbonetics kit is worthless to me as it can't make any real power through the OE powerband. The downpipe on this kit is only 2.5" which is very restrictive.

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So let me get this straight you are having the same issue after your fourth turbo and still can't figure out it's not the turbo's. You claim we have not tried to help you at all . Try getting FOUR turbo's sent to you by another company and see what they tell you. I accepted your third turbo even after the warranty had expired and in addition we advised you to check everything out before changing out the turbo. How do you expect someone to help you with anything after what you post and how you seem to try to bring us down and fail miserably. We have been in business for 29 yrs and counting ( what you don't believe us ) and if we had the type of service you claim we would have been out of business years ago. I would not be suprised if you were to go to another turbo manufacture and contiunue to have the same problem....
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Originally Posted by zectasy
right...i wanna know who is running the TN kit with a stock motor and who has the TN kit and has a built motor. hey mia what else aftermarket do you have? and do you know approx what you run 1/4 mile and 0-60 after the kit is on?
My car has the Turbonetics Stage 1 kit. Out of box reflash and tune, etc. Additionally I have the Motordyne 5/16" Iso Thermal Plenum Spacer, Apexi WS2 exhaust, ACT clutch, JWT flywheel, Nismo LSD, Nismo diff cover, Mossy Short Shifter, HKS coilovers, Hotchkis Sway Bars, Cusco A Arms, SPC camber arms, SPC toe bolts, Crown SS clutch line, Crown SS brake lines, Blitz Upper Rad hose, thats all the go fast part really....
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So let me get this straight you are having the same issue after your fourth turbo and still can't figure out it's not the turbo's. You claim we have not tried to help you at all . Try getting FOUR turbo's sent to you by another company and see what they tell you. I accepted your third turbo even after the warranty had expired and in addition we advised you to check everything out before changing out the turbo. How do you expect someone to help you with anything after what you post and how you seem to try to bring us down and fail miserably. We have been in business for 29 yrs and counting ( what you don't believe us ) and if we had the type of service you claim we would have been out of business years ago. I would not be suprised if you were to go to another turbo manufacture and contiunue to have the same problem....
Let's cover all the bases and the various possibilities.

Install. Sharif did the 3rd install of the turbo. So if there is an installation error it's on his part. Installation was checked and all if fine.

Oil pressure: Oil pressure is 28psi at idle.

In line oil pressure restrictor: In place

Oil line filter: In place and clean

Oil return to the spacer: Oil is returning to the upper oil pan per Turbonetics spec.

Oil return Line: New line free of obstructions and flows downhill all the way to the pan.

This has been an issue from day one. Did you forget that? Being out of warranty should make no difference. You didn't fix it in warranty so that means out of warranty it isn't your problem anymore? It's amazing you have been in business for 29 years! Would it kill you to replace the turbo? That's why you guys suck! Smoking turbo's is nothing new for you guys. Ask DJ Smitty.

I'm not trying to bring you guys down..... just telling people the truth. What is spoken on these message boards and what is reality are 2 different things. The real word is that Turbonetics is slipping. I won't post what other people in the industry have told me about Turbonetics out of respect for the mutual understanding that these words were spoken in confidentiality. People in the business don't slander other manufacturers products if they want to make money on said product. As far as I'm concerned your customer service sucks and you will grab at any possibility to place blame no matter how rediculous it may sound.

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Stock motor here w/ 5AT, TN CAT version, ECU reflash & love it!!!! Just make sure the install is done by a reliable shop that have had successful experiences on the TN kit. Have seen many horror stories on bad installs. Even at that, TN offers a 1 year no fault warranty which is unheard off in other FI manufacturers. Even Nissan does not offer that. Remember the product can only be as good as the installer. Lastly, drive smart & don't abuse your engine. Know it's limits.
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
Let's cover all the bases and the various possibilities.

Install. Sharif did the 3rd install of the turbo. So if there is an installation error it's on his part. Installation was checked and all if fine.

Oil pressure: Oil pressure is 28psi at idle.

In line oil pressure restrictor: In place

Oil line filter: In place and clean

Oil return to the spacer: Oil is returning to the upper oil pan per Turbonetics spec.

Oil return Line: New line free of obstructions and flows downhill all the way to the pan.

This has been an issue from day one. Did you forget that? Being out of warranty should make no difference. You didn't fix it in warranty so that means out of warranty it isn't your problem anymore? It's amazing you have been in business for 29 years! Would it kill you to replace the turbo? That's why you guys suck! Smoking turbo's is nothing new for you guys. Ask DJ Smitty.

I'm not trying to bring you guys down..... just telling people the truth. What is spoken on these message boards and what is reality are 2 different things. The real word is that Turbonetics is slipping. I won't post what other people in the industry have told me about Turbonetics out of respect for the mutual understanding that these words were spoken in confidentiality. People in the business don't slander other manufacturers products if they want to make money on said product. As far as I'm concerned your customer service sucks and you will grab at any possibility to place blame no matter how rediculous it may sound.

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Not to continue this post any longer but 28 PSI oil pressure at idle? That seems quite a bit high. I saw no more then 15-20 PSI at idle with the car warmed up...
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TN kit still on stock block with the flash and run flawless. I got Borla exhaust before and now with AAM 3" single exhaust, Crawford plenum, UR pulley. To be sure then you need to get some kind of EMS to tune the car. But I do agree with the AC line being rupture. You have to becareful to fully wrap it and get it out of harm way. I haven't fix my AC line for a while now.
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TN kit still on stock block with the flash and run flawless. I got Borla exhaust before and now with AAM 3" single exhaust, Crawford plenum, UR pulley. To be sure then you need to get some kind of EMS to tune the car. But I do agree with the AC line being rupture. You have to becareful to fully wrap it and get it out of harm way. I haven't fix my AC line for a while now.
I still have your old video... http://turboneticsownersclub.com/turbos/zphatz.wmv
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
Let's cover all the bases and the various possibilities.

Install. Sharif did the 3rd install of the turbo. So if there is an installation error it's on his part. Installation was checked and all if fine.

Oil pressure: Oil pressure is 28psi at idle.

In line oil pressure restrictor: In place

Oil line filter: In place and clean

Oil return to the spacer: Oil is returning to the upper oil pan per Turbonetics spec.

Oil return Line: New line free of obstructions and flows downhill all the way to the pan.

This has been an issue from day one. Did you forget that? Being out of warranty should make no difference. You didn't fix it in warranty so that means out of warranty it isn't your problem anymore? It's amazing you have been in business for 29 years! Would it kill you to replace the turbo? That's why you guys suck! Smoking turbo's is nothing new for you guys. Ask DJ Smitty.

I'm not trying to bring you guys down..... just telling people the truth. What is spoken on these message boards and what is reality are 2 different things. The real word is that Turbonetics is slipping. I won't post what other people in the industry have told me about Turbonetics out of respect for the mutual understanding that these words were spoken in confidentiality. People in the business don't slander other manufacturers products if they want to make money on said product. As far as I'm concerned your customer service sucks and you will grab at any possibility to place blame no matter how rediculous it may sound.

JET
wow you somehow forget our turbos are not recommended to be used with a oil restrictor. You tell me how YOU managed to return all those turbos for the SAME ISSUE which I might add my production team who has been building and repairing turbo's for some time told me the last turbo seals WERE INTACT. So based on that notion it seems like I told you but you refused to listen to logic, only means you have another issue that is causing your failure. As far as other manufactures products which I might add are totally different in some aspect from our technology I have no problems with and have never bashed anyone's other turbo's. Even when I get calls comparing our technology to others we dont bash the other. I am amused at how hard you try to flip the script on this Larry. " Turbonetics is Slipping " wow not according to the countless customers we have in real racing and street applications......go do a search on any of our sponsored racers and see what records we have held and SHATTERED in the books. I don't see turbonetics slipping anytime soon so I don't know where you got that info from . You have no idea how many members here I have personally helped out to resolved issues they had and how appreciative they were with turbonetics....how many folks stopped by our booths at SEMA and PRI with nothing but good things to say about us. So if that is any indication of how we are slipping then we must be slipping right to the top then....

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