Booger,

The belt needed to be replaced and of course I explained this to him. It was old and had cracks all over it. I was the tuner involved.

Tuan

 

Look my car lasted exactly 700 miles after you tuned it. Mike at AAM did the install and initial tune and the car ran for 2000 miles and the drive to you. If you had any nuts and would stand up to the POS APS I would have never had to make the drive to you in the first place.

I dumped another 20k in the car doing JWT upgraded turbos plus so i dont think 1300 breaks my bank pal. Since I drove 800 miles for you to grenade my car I wasnt happy giving you what I did. I do realize that there are no absolutes in car modding but AAM had car running fine. That had to be the most expensive check valve in history.

I will not put anyone on the spot here but for you to say I spun a rod bearing is a joke.

 

Since I have owned my z over the past 3 years have had a chance to use 3 shops somewhat close to me and by far the best and only shop I will continue to use is Sharif at Forged Performance.. Irshad has broken any further business dealings I will ever have with grd. Tuan you should get rid of that rat and maybe in return regain trust from past customers...

 

+1. , plus the belt could've been tightened it was very loose....Main reason for not going to GRD is IRSHAD... Earl is pimp, Nothing against Tuan, but according to IRSHAD Tuan did not want to give a discount to "finish" the tune...

 

There sure is alotta drama everywhere. Then we have the thread which tells everyone to avoid Mike and Altered Atmosphere.

 

When was the customer told about the belt needing to be replaced? Was it before or after the blower was mounted?

 

How do you know that the damage wasn't done in the 2k miles after AAM's tune? I also drove down 1200 miles back to FL from GRD, with a car full of crap, after being tuned by Tuan. The car drove like a champ. Putting your complaints against GRD aside, thats a pretty bad accusation to say that they are the ones that blew the car's engine. It could have very well been the previous 2k miles after the tune with AAM. The rest of your story I sympathize with...

 

Oh ****!!! AAM vs. GRD posses fight to the death!!!!







And guys, I'm J/K btw. I'm a West Coaster so my **** will be tuned by GTM . . . I have no hate against anybody.

 

I am not here to rock the boat, but I have heard both sides of the story in relation to your motor letting go. I sympathize with what you went through, but the details of what you told me on the phone changed numerous times from the time your motor went, to the time before you picked up your car, after you actually picked up your car, and the time you posted your complete story on the boards.

I have heard GRD's (Irshad's) side, and while I don't want to take sides, at least Irshad's story is consistant.

I have been dealing with GRD for about 2 yrs now and have spent a lot of money with them. I have reffered a number of people to them, and probably know them better than most on the boards. I have had my issues with GRD, which usually stemmed from miscommunication and timing issues. In the end, if you are upfront with them, I think they, for the most part, will do the same in return. I know Irshad and Tuan both have spoken to me at times when I have been less than happy with certain situations and I still remain a customer of theirs.

No shop is going to have 100% happy customers, it is impossible. In cases like wtf no turbo, it is awesome that he has the choice to take his business elsewhere when he is unhappy with a certain shop.

In the end, regardless of the specific details of what went down, I think the fact that GRD ate the core on wtf no turbo's motor should be enough for him to quietly part ways.

 

Well it made it up there. Made 20 pulls on the dyno there. I'm really not pointing the finger here you run risk boosting a factory na car. There is also alot more to tuning then afs and timing. Knowing the limitations of what your working with helps to. My car made 377 at AAM after the APS st install and it made 415 and 455 ft lbs after GRD. Sure more power, but i think they pushed the engine to the threshold of failure with tuning that much power.

The entire event was mishandled by GRD and APS. Bad customer service from GRD "seller" and bad engineering by manufactuer "APS". If APS would have said "yea our check valve is a real pos we will send out another" I would have never had made the trip, but GRD and APS wanted to blame AAM for the install which was fine all along.

 

Well believe me Ziv they asked for the money this was not a good faith by any means. Think what you want of me, but I have no reason to lie about anything here. Like I posted before every shop is good till you have a problem. AAM and I have went around about minor things. They were short staffed for awhile and we had some communication problems, but Mike always made good on things. I will say even with the diligent efforts of people like Mike, Sharrif and Sam they wont make everyone happy because some people you just cant please.

Just shoot me straight and treat me fairly was all I asked.

 

I know your situation with the check valve would have been enough for me to call it over and you stuck with them through that.

In terms of the core charge I do believe they tried to work with you. I believe there was a miscommunication in terms of how it was handled (this is obvious). Like I stated, regardless of the details, in the end, Irshad ate the core.

 

wow good point!! Never, not until the dyno.... so techinicaly after...

 

I agree with you on this, but GL on getting APS to ever say such a thing even though we all know the truth. I've pretty much vowed to stay away from any APS products. I've been back and forth on that, but in the end I'd never do it again.

You have to admit though that GRD covering the core charge probably took a lot of guts on their behalf to eat the $1300. They probably could've even charged your credit card had they wanted to. Any other shop would've never let that happen....

 

I'm sure they had a core lying around anyway....

 

He threatened me with that. After the call I immediately cancelled the card. Believe me guys he did not want to eat the core lets not make him a saint yet. I think because my rod went through the upper pan they hoped Sam could make the core work and used this to negotiate with which blew up in their face.
I am over it now and this has gone alot further then I thought it would. I know GRD has some happy customers out there and I'm happy for them. All shops have their one haters and its never a good situation that causes it. My motor doesnt let go I would be more less happy with GRD even though they need severe scheduling help.

 

I think this is dragged on more than it should have also. And i did let the core charge go, never even attempted to charge your credit card,
If it was that much of an issue we would of never released the car to you until the bill was paid in full.
look i let $1300 go on the core charge you need to let this go.
irshad

 

Now why would you feel his personal life needs to be aired to the whole forum? What an @ssclown...

 

I may have made a joke about spending money on the car. Bu no means was I serious. If thats all you can come at me with Irshod thats pretty pathetic.

 

That is plain fking dumb. Why would he not replace the belt when he knew the belt would either snap, shred, or slip. If this infact what happened and they charged you for it then there is no doubt they were trying to milk you for more money. The belt should always be inspected before mounting the blower.

I know what is involved w/ these SCers as i owned a vortech SC'd 2000 maxima before i bought the Z. I did the install myself and i know it is a b!tch to take that thing on and off.