Thanks bro. I appreciate the props. You hit the nail on the head btw. It's down to GTM or Relentless and the Vortech or JWT TT. That CARB sticker is a big deal here in Cali because without it, there is a potential of having to not only pay to have the TT removed but also the potential for heavy fines. I guess at this point it comes down to whether I am willing to take that risk. I've ridden in a TT and it is just sick. And I personally know 3 G owners with Vortechs and they all love their setups. If only the JWT TT was CARB exempt.

 

As far as the other questions you asked. I know the answers to all of them. Like I said, I have done a ton of research now for about 6 months and this is what I am down to. I am just having a hard time deciding between the two systems.

 

done right the first time as in building the motor.

 

The power curve is so different. Any chance you can register the car outside CA? Have relatives in another state? If you're just driving a relative's out of state car "temporarily", can you still get pulled over and ticketed?

 

Probably Vortec but the smog is a decisive factor.

 

hey....what about PROCHARGER??. ... .....jwt tt would be nice but with a built bottom end.....forge it then make SERIOUS power....

 

Believe it or not, I have seen many more SC's blow up stock motors than I have seen a properly tuned JWT TT kit, so that is my first point.

My second point would be that If "someone was so inclined" to put the CARB sticker from the JWT Pop Charger on the kit than if/when they ever got pulled over he/she could gladly show the nice officer (who 99.9% of the time) doesn't even know what they are looking at/for.
The intercooler is almost invisable when heat painted flat black, there is no way to even see the turbo's, and the kit is so quiet with the re-circ valve (no BOV). I have "seen it explained" to the authorities before that it was a fancy cold air induced intake system and "Here is the CARB # on the sticker" "have a nice day" hahaha, It was that simple. So as long as you keep your catalitic converters on, and all the stuff mentioned above, there should be no real worrie about getting pulled over and ticketed for the JWT TT kit, "one would be inclined to think".
Oh, and as for the SMOG tests go. With a new car, you will not ever have to have a SMOG test for 4-6 years and I don't know about you, but that is a long enough time for most people to not ever have to worrie about it and just enjoy the TT'ed car

That is just a thiught or suggestion....

Either way Hex, I am looking forward to doing FI on your beautifull, brand new, blue G. I just want you to be well informed and happy with your decision, and this is comming from someone that HAS OWNED them ALL (TT and SC's)

 

Is it because a supercharger is so much more common in California? Because I just can't see the SC's blowing more stock blocks than a TT if they were both properly tuned.

Maybe in numbers, but percentage wise, I think SC's are more reliable and less likely to cause blow the stock motor. This is assuming both are properly tuned with about the "same" power.

Not trying to contradict you, because im sure you know 1000x more than I do when it comes to FI.

Do you agree?

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fu@k the po po, get the JWT

 

of your two choices definitely jwt tt.

 

Very smart thinking

I'm sure if you lived here you would still think the same

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EDIT: names have been changed to protect the innocent.

 

What would they pin him down on. He is simply stating that it is likely there will be no problems even if he gets pulled over since the sticker is there to show how legal it is. Besides since the car won't sound like a jet engine, or excreting tons of exhaust why the hell would the popo look under the hood? F**k the popo get a JWT. That's what I'm doing. Oh wait, Oklahoma doesn't have emissions.

 

Was at GT Motorsports today. DAYUM, I have never seen so many FI'd cars in one place at one time. I was hoping to get some clarity and maybe have a decision made but seeing all those TT cars made it worse. Some of the cars there are just SIIICCKKKK!! Anyways, this is a bday present to myself so one way or the other, a decision will be made soon cuz my bday is at the end of this month.

 

Thanks, point made (see EDITED version.)

 

JWT TT - twin turbos with no need to build motor, easy 420-430rwhp with supporting parts ie i/e [lol], bonafide 11 sec car driver dependant etc, no heat soak,

Supercharger - instant bolt on powa, less parts, easier to diy, can be real beasts but typically not as strong as a comparable tt on the top end......Have a friend with one with many supporting mods and he did 11.9 at Etown so they are very quick..

Depends what you want...Im going JWT tt...Felt one...all I needed to make my decision...You should get a ride in one of each....Thats the best way to make your decision...

 

The biggest difference between a Vortech kit, and a JWT TT kit is TORQUE. One drive in both cars, and I gaurantee you will want the TT powered car. If you have the means, the TT kit would be the way to go. The JWT TT looks so close to stock, that a cop might not even realize its aftermarket. I am so glad I moved out of Khalifornia.

That said, if you just want a car that has the same type of power curve as stock...only bigger...then go with the Vortech. Biggest benifits are low cost of entry, and low cost of installation.

 

I agree with that. Last run we went on we were blocked at both ends on a mountain road by San Jose, and tickets were written for 3+ hrs. That was anything from tinted windows, no front license plate, to you name it. I bought the APS TT (which is in my garage in the box (2) and since I'm in Calif. I am not putting it on. I am going with the carb certified Vortech and building my engine (4.2L), so when I do leave later I can put the APS TT on then. When it comes time for the carb cert, I don't want no hassles here in Calif. I have a friend who has the vortech on his G35 and he loves it. Good Luck on your Decision...
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Thats great, but remember a built motor, (because of the usuall drop in compression) will not be CARB aproved (emissions part) with the Vortech either. Also remember, anything altered from any factory CARB aproved FI kit will void the CARB cert. ie- pulley changes, FMU, ECU, injector size, etc. (they all will void the CARB rules).

Nothing more than an completely unaltered out of the box FI kit (Vortech, Pro Charger, and Stillen only) will be carb aproved, and thats on a stock motor only.

 

+1 Well put. My point exactly