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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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Hey guys ive been thinking lately of doing something new to my car but not too complicated. Since im in school and cant be wasting that much money now i just want something to keep me active in modding. I just want to add something for 4th and 5th gear.

My car is running on the stock block with the greddy TT on 10 PSI, full 3 inch exhaust with w/g dumps, crawford plenum, and full cjm stage 2 fuel system with walbro pump. My tune is pretty simply it retards a 1 degree per psi and pressure regulator runs at 42 PSI.

Now what i want to know since a know so little about nitrous is what type of shot should i run wet or dry and were should i shot it from. I know i really cant go over a 50 shot since im maxing out the block as it is. And is this truely a good idea or will i be on a small time frame window to blow my motor.

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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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Thats a big risk. I'd imagine boom pretty soon with boost and nitrous on stock block.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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anyone else
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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you're definitely nuts to even think about that on stock block...

why not just tune for a higher boost map... if you really need more power and like pushing the envelope


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04 touring greddy TT on 10 pounds hp unknown. 0-60 1.979 best Rt .027 best 1/4 12.326 @ 113.29 on Iforged 19's with toyo t1's

That's not zero-to-60, that's "First 60 feet"
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Actually a small shot of nitrous is better than a couple more pounds of boost. It acts like an intercooler in a bottle and thus you get more power and the intake air temps are much lower. I probably wouldn't run over a 30-35 shot with 10psi on a stock motor but you'll be amazed what a small shot like that will do on top of boost.
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Actually a small shot of nitrous is better than a couple more pounds of boost. It acts like an intercooler in a bottle and thus you get more power and the intake air temps are much lower. I probably wouldn't run over a 30-35 shot with 10psi on a stock motor but you'll be amazed what a small shot like that will do on top of boost.
Wouldn't he be better of doing water/meth? Much smaller "bottles" too
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
Actually a small shot of nitrous is better than a couple more pounds of boost. It acts like an intercooler in a bottle and thus you get more power and the intake air temps are much lower. I probably wouldn't run over a 30-35 shot with 10psi on a stock motor but you'll be amazed what a small shot like that will do on top of boost.
+1 ....My APS TT is setup for a 35 wet shot and running 9.5psi. I haven't had it tuned yet for the N20,but it will be after this weekend. I am on a stock block as well. The nozzle was tapped into the intake tube about half way up.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Wow, you guys are nuts. I wouldn't try that on my stock block. I'll stick with the water/meth. I'm trying to make my motor last.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Nuts..maybe...but just trying to see what the motor will do.I'm a drag racer so if your going to race you have to be prepared to spend $$$$$ when things break. A built motor is in the near future anyway.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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i know that is first 60 foot plus whoever thinks thats my 0-60 then they are kinda retarded


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you're definitely nuts to even think about that on stock block...

why not just tune for a higher boost map... if you really need more power and like pushing the envelope


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That's not zero-to-60, that's "First 60 feet"
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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10psi is already pushing it. ever considered a fogger system? spray n2o at the intercooler for cooling purposes?
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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so then a 35 shot would be good just to cool the system i truely just wanted it for 4th n 5th but thanks im really going to check it out how much for a system like this
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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the way i see it is that even if you use nitrous it wont go boom the second you use it but over time it will kill the motor and your basicly throwing away what little reliability you have right now. first build the motor up a little bit and than go for it, i think forged pistons should be on your list before the nitrous set up and it will cost you just as much and will give you a little breathing room.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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found this a few minutes ago. Sounds like what you want.

http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=436
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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yeah we have about 4 stock block setups with nitrous that we have in the works. coachk being one of them...

results to come soon.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by abyss
found this a few minutes ago. Sounds like what you want.

http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=436
I don't know about 50rwhp..I think thats a marketing ploy...The drag Z from Boulder Nissan tried the N20 on the IC and I believe they gained 15rwhp.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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I would not risk it, your already twins at 10lbs. But if you really want to do this you crazy basterd go wet system or direct port.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
Actually a small shot of nitrous is better than a couple more pounds of boost. It acts like an intercooler in a bottle and thus you get more power and the intake air temps are much lower. I probably wouldn't run over a 30-35 shot with 10psi on a stock motor but you'll be amazed what a small shot like that will do on top of boost.
you act like you're building your car and know what you're talking about Bri...
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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what im contempleting on now is either to shoot it into the intake pipe or just do the intercooler spray i would just like it to cool the system up i dont want to go crazy 35 shot seems to be the shoot everyone runs for that purpose i dont plan on using it in the lower gears anyway im thinking of running it in 4th and 5th and maybe 3rd if i see someone pulling a bit in front too early.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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A small shot would do nice things for you, especially cooling the charge as people have said. One thing to think about is a progressive controller to ramp it in smoothly instead of shocking the system with a straight hit. At 35 shot I wouldn't worry too much, but much more and I'd definitely think about getting one. The rods are already happy enough to turn into pretzels, they don't need any encouragement from a sudden shock of nitrous. Also, I wouldn't experiment too much with nitrous on your setup without a backup plan if something lets go in the motor; I imagine it is too hot in Miami to be walking
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